going above and beyond
- Jun 18, 2004
- retired computer geek
I will refrain from using certain words if DESTEE says so. Last time I checked this was her site. NOT yours.When it's used to make another feel small (FAILED!) and as an insult. I couldn't care less at WHOSE request you not use it, just don't come at me all sideways and then run whining to Destee when you reap what you sow.
I did nothing of the sort. But if that's what you choose to believe then so be it.When it comes to impunging the honor of my forefathers by LYING about their motives and actions, including my parents, yea, I'm funny that way. I don't stand on the sidelines. I come to their defense. You don't like it, tough. Ya reap what ya sow.
You are going to claim that in all this time not one of your Irish ancestors lay with the English and you have not a drop of anything other than Irish in you?My ancestors? The Irish? No. At the time when your ancestors were being sold into slavery by Arabs and conquering black tribesmen, mine were enslaved to the English. From the early 1600's to the mid 1800's, Irish serfs were bound to the land, told what to do, when to do it, were forbidden the free practice of their religion, free speech, freedom of movement, forbidden to own land, etc. Some called it serfdom to their English masters, but it was slavery.
You cannot make a valid argument for my ancestors enslaving yours.
That is because you will not look back far enough. The AA community IS because of what the white racism of past JUSTIFIED TO THEMSELVES. We were RIPPED AWAY FROM OUR HOMES (not all were sold, I'm so sick of hearing that argument--most were TAKEN UNJUSTLY), put in ships to ROT AND **** with each other, Brought to a country where we were "Inferior", raped, ABUSED for SPEAKING OUR LANGUAGE, FORBIDDEN to gather as a COMMUNITY, SOLD away from FAMILY, ABUSED for seeking FREEDOM, MUTILATED, MIXED, DEGRADED, TURNED AND USED AGAINST EACH OTHER, STOLEN FROM (ya, white people still dancing to the AFRICAN STEP like it's not ours, not to mention the STONES THAT SIT ON THE Queen of England's crown, and all African artifacts in WHITE museums worldwide...)I have never stated that there is no racism (still waiting for a definition of that term), I have merely stated that not all of the problems of the AA community are because of white racism.
I cannot convince you of the vastness of the African struggle, even as it pours into modern day slavery which is still very real to many brown communities worldwide.The Irish had their Diaspora, too. Out of a population of app eight and a half million, in the relatively short space of 60 years over one and a half million starved to death and over five million fled to other countries, mostly America. That represents a decrease in population of 80% in two generations. I think it was worse than the African Diaspora.
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