Black People : ARISTOTLE suggests the Pyramids Egypt were instruments of oppression.

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    The following excerpt is from "POLITICS", written by Aristotle in 350 BC.

    As to (2) tyrannies, they are preserved in two most opposite ways.
    One of them is the old traditional method in which most tyrants
    administer their government. Of such arts Periander of Corinth is said
    to have been the great master, and many similar devices may be
    gathered from the Persians in the administration of their
    government. There are firstly the prescriptions mentioned some
    distance back, for the preservation of a tyranny, in so far as this is
    possible; viz., that the tyrant should lop off those who are too high;
    he must put to death men of spirit; he must not allow common meals,
    clubs, education, and the like; he must be upon his guard against
    anything which is likely to inspire either courage or confidence among
    his subjects; he must prohibit literary assemblies or other meetings
    for discussion, and he must take every means to prevent people from
    knowing one another (for acquaintance begets mutual confidence).
    Further, he must compel all persons staying in the city to appear in
    public and live at his gates; then he will know what they are doing:
    if they are always kept under, they will learn to be humble. In short,
    he should practice these and the like Persian and barbaric arts, which
    all have the same object.

    A tyrant should also endeavor to know what each of his subjects
    says or does, and should employ spies, like the 'female detectives'
    at Syracuse, and the eavesdroppers whom Hiero was in the habit
    of sending to any place of resort or meeting; for the fear of informers
    prevents people from speaking their minds, and if they do, they are
    more easily found out. Another art of the tyrant is to sow quarrels
    among the citizens; friends should be embroiled with friends, the
    people with the notables, and the rich with one another.

    Also he should impoverish his subjects; he thus provides against
    the maintenance of a guard by the citizen and the people, having
    to keep hard at work, are prevented from conspiring. The Pyramids
    of Egypt afford an example of this policy;

    also the offerings of the family of Cypselus, and the building of the temple of Olympian Zeus by the Peisistratidae, and the great Polycratean
    monuments at Samos; all these works were alike intended to occupy
    the people and keep them poor. Another practice of tyrants is to
    multiply taxes, after the manner of Dionysius at Syracuse, who
    contrived that within five years his subjects should bring into the
    treasury their whole property. The tyrant is also fond of making war
    in order that his subjects may have something to do and be always in
    want of a leader. And whereas the power of a king is preserved by
    his friends, the characteristic of a tyrant is to distrust his
    friends, because he knows that all men want to overthrow him, and they
    above all have the power.

    Again, the evil practices of the last and worst form of democracy
    are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their
    families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands, and
    the license which is allowed to slaves in order that they may betray
    their masters; for slaves and women do not conspire against tyrants;
    and they are of course friendly to tyrannies and also to
    democracies, since under them they have a good time. For the people
    too would fain be a monarch, and therefore by them, as well as by
    the tyrant, the flatterer is held in honor; in democracies he is the
    demagogue; and the tyrant also has those who associate with him in a
    humble spirit, which is a work of flattery.

    Hence tyrants are always fond of bad men, because they love to be
    flattered, but no man who has the spirit of a freeman in him will
    lower himself by flattery; good men love others, or at any rate do not
    flatter them. Moreover, the bad are useful for bad purposes; 'nail
    knocks out nail,' as the proverb says. It is characteristic of a
    tyrant to dislike every one who has dignity or independence; he
    wants to be alone in his glory, but any one who claims a like
    dignity or asserts his independence encroaches upon his prerogative,
    and is hated by him as an enemy to his power. Another mark of a tyrant
    is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with
    them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the
    Others enter into no rivalry with him.

    Such are the notes of the tyrant and the arts by which he
    preserves his power; there is no wickedness too great for him. All
    that we have said may be summed up under three heads, which answer
    to the three aims of the tyrant. These are, (1) the humiliation of his
    subjects; he knows that a mean-spirited man will not conspire
    against anybody; (2) the creation of mistrust among them; for a tyrant
    is not overthrown until men begin to have confidence in one another;
    and this is the reason why tyrants are at war with the good; they
    are under the idea that their power is endangered by them, not only
    because they would not be ruled despotically but also because they are
    loyal to one another, and to other men, and do not inform against
    one another or against other men; (3) the tyrant desires that his
    subjects shall be incapable of action, for no one attempts what is
    impossible, and they will not attempt to overthrow a tyranny, if
    they are powerless. Under these three heads the whole policy of a
    tyrant may be summed up, and to one or other of them all his ideas may
    be referred: (1) he sows distrust among his subjects; (2) he takes
    away their power; (3) he humbles them.
    This then is one of the two methods by which tyrannies are
    preserved;..
     
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    I have often wondered what A People's History Of Ancient Egypt would contain.. meaning, what was life like for ordinary people? How did they see their Government? And is our reverance of their leaders akin to future generations celebrating Ronald Reagan and George Bush? .. less sensationally stated: does a study of the ruling elite of any people really give you a good idea of what life was like for the masses?
     
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    I don't know how Aristotle ever came to that conclusion because the earliest estimates I have on the building of the pyramids is at 36,000 b.c. !! I do know for a fact that the Great pyramid and Sphinx correlate perfectly with the universe in 10,500 b.c. This is science and astronomy. So the history of Kufu in regards to the pyramids has to go. Therefore, there was no way for Aristotle to know anything at all because the Pyramids were built at least by white peoples count, 9,000 years before Aristotle was born.
     
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    Here's the deal. When we look at the structure of Ancient Kemet, it could have been nothing like what we have now. It furthermore does not reflect the fact that when we look at the laws of Kemet and the spiritual structure of Kemet and the fact that the rulers were the next closest thing to the Creator on earth, they obviously could not do and say certain things simply because they were regarded as divine. This is why Kemet lasted so long without an internal revolution taking place. One look at the laws of Maat should let one know the seriously high level of thought and spirituality that they were on...and this was something that had to be displayed by the leadership itself which the people naturally followed and lived by.
     
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    all that time he spent at the library of alexandria studying scrolls and he comes up with this...lol

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    Egpyt aside.. it's actually pretty interesting reading.. it reads like a European supremacy manual. There are so many parallels to exactly what we are dealing with today.. The principles of Divide and Conquer are so clearly expressed in it.. and this was written in 350 BC.. thats wild.. and there are still folks that don't believe Divide and Conquer is real.
     
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    This is definitely going on the reading list for my son.. it's an excellent way to describe the roots of european supremacist thought and doctrine.. Aristotle is describing tyrants and educating would be tyrants at the same time.. that duality of function is an interesting concept in and of itself.
     
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