Black People : Are Victims Actually Victims?

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  1. legit-writer

    legit-writer Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    A couple of my friends were having a discussion a couple of weeks ago about women who get raped or attacked in some form or fashion, and his argument was that sometimes it is partially the woman's fault that she got raped because of what she wears (provocative clothing), knowing what the possible 'consequences' would be. My other friend says that a woman can wear whatever she wants to wear and that the guy who decides to come on to her and attack her is at full blame and that he is fully responsible for his actions. My question is which side are you on? Do any of you really believe that it is partially the woman's fault for being raped due to what kind of clothes she wear and what part of town she may be hanging out in ? Why or why not?
     
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    My boyfriend and I argue about this all the time:

    I say that a woman has the right to walk around naked, screaming, flopping and should still be able to say "NO" and be respected and left alone. I also believe women should be allowed to cover everything including their eyes and the same thing applies.

    My husband brings up the valid point that some people have something on their mind other than your well being, so as a woman you have personal responsibility to your body to ensure you avoid being caught in a situation you cannot get out of.

    Because of this, I always carry pepper spray and would never attend a party that will include men without my boyfriend. ESPECIALLY if drinking/shenanigans are involved.

    Some women think this is okay to do, and it IS ok, however it is NOT smart and raises your chances of a man misinterpreting your actions and needs tremendously.

    I would rather keep my chances as low as possible, rather than risk it and then get raped, Just Sayin.
     
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    It is never the woman's fault. Normal men can see a chick that is dam near naked, and rape wouldn't cross their mind. Any man that rapes a woman is mentally disturbed.

    That being said, as a woman you must be aware that perverts are lurkin'. So, if you do dress especially provocative, you gotta be ready for what that may bring. Another thing to think about is what is provocative? Everyone's perception is different, and if you got a rapist running loose who knows what his crazy butt is thinking.
     
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    If a woman ain't feelin' you, keep it movin'. No matter what your thought process is on her apparel. I'll put it on another level, George Zimmerman followed Trayvon because he was sportin' a hoodie...

    Just wanted to throw some perspective out there.
     
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    that is really sick! African women to this day go about bare breasted in many areas. Nude sunbathing, not even talking bout Billie jeans or hot pants! Folks dont know that hot pants go back to the 40s and no one ever disrespected women or said stupid crap like "raped due to attire" This post 9/11 world and generation, has come up with some sick crap that never existed in human history! As for rape, as a Christian I like Muslim law!
     
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    I was just reading some African (Kongolese) thought. It reasoned that crime is sociogenic. I.e. if one perpetrates a crime, it's a sign that there's something the matter in society. Given our society, and the history of sexual crimes, especially against Africans, it's unreasonable to not be vigilant against rapists, among other things.

    I read about a Sister who had a regular homosexual visitor, I believe non-African. At one point he upped and raped her. Society, maybe even genetics in the case of some people, creates rapists. To avoid rape, women as well as men need to be vigilant against rapists. Much the same as to avoid being murdered, exploited, or mis-educated, we need to avoid murderers, exploiters or mis-educators.

    Personally, I would worry for any Sister around Men, particularly Men outside of African Consciousness and Maat.
     
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    Why is there so much rape gong on in African nations like Congo and South Africa more then anywhere else? And this has been going on for over ten years now!
     
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    Because Europeans want Kongo and South Africa. However, if you ask why we behave outside of our ancestral customs, it's because imposed upon us are a foreign culture. There are many Africans paid to destroy other Africans. Much like rappers, but more explicitly violent and armed to the teeth.
     
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    Not that I want any conversation with sick folk, but I guess I have to ask. What enjoyment does someone get by doing ish like this? I will never get it.
     
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    Playing devil's advocate. Though there are some outfits that sisters have chosen to wear in public that basically says, 'anything goes'. That amounts to only half the equation. My problem is some peoples adventure into Bimbo Land, insisting that they have this magic force field in certain obvious situations.

    If you are vulnerable and flashing cash in a certain neighborhood, you wouldn't be too shocked if you got robbed. Similarly, if you go scantily clad, alone, and decide to drink, get high at a drunken frat party. You should not be shocked when things go south rather quickly. We can argue all we want about rights and no means no! :nono: Once the deed is done, it's done. Add to this the fact that the overwhelming majority wont report the crime or show up to testify. ( ~ 1% as I recall ) That in some cases the chances of proper prosecution is minimal. You can see why some would argue that the victim placed herself in harms way. Protecting yourself is not a choice/option. There has never been a right to be safe under all circumstances. Furthermore, there are some that like it rough and forced. A mixed signal, if there ever was one. Guys are aggressors. Accept this as fact. Nothing wrong with some old school common sense.





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