Black Spirituality Religion : Any total surrender is lesser than the value of God

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Any total surrender is lesser than the value of God
    Total sacrifice and total surrender – of any body in Nivrutti is never
    Over payment, because any - total surrender is lesser than the value of God.
    Hence, God is never over ambitious – in collecting extra price for Nivrutti.
    Total sacrifice of entire wealth is done – to the children in Pravrutti,
    Not impossible, Dharma Raja did it – even in playing chess with Duryodhana.
    The same total sacrifice of wealth – was not done in charity of Aswamedha,
    Which was done in the name of God, - only excess wealth was sacrificed

    In Aswamedha, hence total sacrifice – is done by people in Pravrutti but
    They feel it as impossible in Nivrutti, - Dharma Raja sacrificed even self
    In the chess game by becoming slave, - but to surrender self and to become
    Slave of God becomes impossible – in Nivrutti, hence total surrender is possible.
    When Krishna asked to tell a lie, - he should have told it as a slave of God.
    When Draupadi was put in bet, - he did not remember justice, but remembered
    Justice when Lord asked to tell lie, - hence Pravrutti is greater than Nivrutti
    For any soul, only blessed souls – like Gopikas proved real value of Nivrutti.

    Pravrutti contains justice and injustice, - playing chess game is injustice.
    He has no right to bet shares of brothers, - property came from father Pandu.
    Even his share is for his son, no right, - entire game was injustice voted
    Against justice even by Dharma Raja, - a person famous for justice, what to
    Speak of common men? he was for – injustice in his total surrender, after war
    He didn’t surrender kingdom to Krishna – like this, Nivrutti fails even before
    Injustice of Pravrutti, one may vote to God – against justice of Pravrutti
    But not against injustice of Pravrutti, - one may donate money from savings

    Meant for children or even by fast, - but not the money spent in luxuries!

    Control luxuries and eat for good health – so that you can serve God and
    Save to give to your child, this is voting – for justice against injustice in
    Pravrutti, if you fail even in this, - how can you vote for Nivrutti against
    Pravrutti? If you can’t resist chess – to save wealth for your issue, how can
    You sacrifice wealth to God resisting – your issue? You couldn’t realize value
    Of even justice in Pravrutti, how can – you realize highest value of Nivrutti?
    Hence, Krishna kept silent when – Dharma Raja suffered in the forest.
    You become blind to sacrifice for – injustice, but not blind to sacrifice to God!

    Even justice is not given value, - rejecting the injustice in Pravrutti by you,
    How can you give value to God even – rejecting justice of Pravrutti here?
    Gita says that fools fail in Pravrutti – as well as in Nivrutti due to ignorance.
    Your blind attraction for chess game – could throw away justice of Pravrutti,
    But attraction for God fails to do so, - your attraction is not real at all!

    First kill your attraction for chess game – to save for your child, this is the
    First step of voting justice against – injustice in Pravrutti, then only the
    Second step to throw away attraction – to child for the sake of God.
    Today God need not compete with – justice of Pravrutti, which was
    Already thrown away by injustice, - hence, God competes with injustice.
    Modern Arjuna will kill grandfather – for the sake of wealth, God need not
    Order Arjuna to kill grandfather – for His mission, God asks wealth only.
    Modern Gopika has already voted – for her darling against her husband,
    God need not compete with her – husband but competes with her darling!
    In old Bharata and old Bhagavata – God competed with justice of Pravrutti,
    In modern Bharata and Bhagavata – God competes with injustice of Pravrutti!
    In old Gita God said to leave justice – for His sake, but now God has to say
    In Modern Gita to leave injustice – for His sake to prove Himself highest!

    If innocent old Krishna asks modern Arjuna – to kill his grandfather for
    God’s sake, modern Arjuna will act externally,- terrible pain to kill grandfather,
    So that finally he will kill Bhishma,- as if he is killing Bhishma for Krishna only!
    Now modern Arjuna gets grace of God, - and also wealth together, it is just
    One shot two birds, but God is – too much modern as Lord Dattatreya,
    He will not ask to kill Bhishma, - He will ask only for the kingdom,
    He is innocent Bhole Shankara for – straight and innocent devotees only.
  2. Angela22

    Angela22 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Feb 26, 2013
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    From what I understand, what's meant is that no matter how much one sacrifices, they can never amount to how much the Father is worthy before them to be sacrificed for.

    When one considers the sacrifice the Father has made for us, in His sending His Only Begotten to be sacrificed for our sins so that we might have salvation, then one can see how nothing we do amounts to that level of devotion and love, for the Father and the Father's children. The Father has done many thing for us which we cannot compared to no matter how much we try, such as His resurrecting the Holy Son back to life from the dead, so that our redemption would be sealed.

    All the Father and the Son have asked of us is to keep faith in who He is, in His Word, in His sacrificed, and His works, and to believe in the Son and His resurrection, therefore believing in the Father for who He is to us; that is, our Savior and KING. :)