Black Relationships : Any profits from black marriage failures? Greater society thoughts...

dustyelbow

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So is it considered PROFITABLE not to get HAPPILY MARRIED and enjoy the fruit of each other PLEASING one another in the most IMAGINABLE WAYS in a HAPPY WAY.

Is there any CONSEQUENCES with seeing relationships without COMMUNITY-LEVEL COMMITMENT and LATER without RESOLVE between the TWO, MAN and WOMAN in the community?

Does the COMMUNITY GAIN or LOSES from these ENCOUNTERS?

If the COMMUNITY loses then SOMEBODY or SOMETHING has GAINED what was LOST.

That is the NATURE of the matter, someone's LOST becomes somebodies GAIN.

Well that is what this AUTHOR says...

FP: Can you talk a bit about the effect the family upheaval has had on African-Americans?



Hymowitz: Given the legacy of slavery that made marriage impossible for blacks and Jim Crow laws that emasculated men, the unmarriage revolution was bound to hit blacks especially hard. When Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote his controversial report "The Negro Family", he was warning the country about a 25% illegitimacy rate among blacks. In one chapter of my book, I tell the story of how black leaders and black and white academics accused Moynihan of every sin in the p.c. book. He was a racist who could not possibly understand "the strengths of the black family." He was a sexist who failed to appreciate the "strong black woman" and her "extended kinship networks." It became impossible to have an honest conversation about what was happening in the black community for the next twenty years even as black welfare rolls, crime rates, and teen births were soaring.



Well, now the rupture between marriage and black childbearing is just about complete. Seventy percent of black births are to single mothers. Seventy percent. This has had a disastrous effect on men, who have lost their major social roles as provider and father. It is also a tragedy for the country because it makes the goal of full black equality unachievable. Growing up in single parent homes, black kids are destined to stay behind.

Emphasis on BOLD outline something GREATER SOCIETY consider as DESTINY.

The DESTINY that our CHILDREN will FAIL. Fail at bringing about EQUALITY which is a form of JUSTICE and being a SOCIAL OUTCAST making LITTLE or NO CONTRIBUTION to SOCIETY in which we find ourselves IN.

I am not suggesting MARRIAGE is the ANSWER because some INTERNAL ISSUES have to be ADDRESSED and CONTINUALLY ADDRESSED.

Last month, the Department of Health and Human Services awarded $118 million in grants for research, projects and programs designed to encourage healthy marriages — the operative word for these grants being "healthy" because studies over the past 10 years suggest that marriage for blacks isn't a cure-all, either:

# The University of Illinois tracked 199 black and 174 white couples during their first years of marriage. The study found that after three years, 17 percent of the black couples were divorced or separated, three times the white percentage.

# Analysis of a national survey of 13,017 adults by sociologists Mark Rank and Larry Davis at Washington University in St. Louis found that married blacks more so than whites believed that divorce would improve their finances, career, social life, sex life and parenting.

# In 1970, according to Census data, 57 percent of black men and 54 percent of black women were married. By 2005, those figures had dropped to 42 percent and 35 percent, respectively. And 68 percent of white men and 63 percent of white women were married in 1970, compared with 59 percent and 57 percent respectively last year.

Harvard sociologist Orlando Patterson has spoken to many black husbands and wives who are disappointed, dissatisfied or disloyal. One overriding problem, according to Patterson, is the issue of sex roles. "Our men still have male-dominant attitudes toward their spouses," he says, but contemporary black women have more independent views about their roles.

And while some might find being a single black woman distressing, married women reported being in poorer health, this according to "The Consequences of Marriage for African Americans," published last year by the pro-marriage Institute for American Values, a non-profit aimed at improving marriage.

So the question is DO YOU FEEL FREE? Free to do???...when these FREEDOMS (CIVIL RIGHTS) were made by people who were MARRIED mostly and had settle it within THEMSELVES to allow us (CHILDREN) to enjoy the freedom to SHOP at WHITE and in some cases BE WHITE in OUTLOOK.

MARRIAGE was still considered HEALTHY in those regards (THEN) but now it has CAST SERIOUS DOUBT leaving us vurnerable for SICKNESS. Even if you MARRY there is SOMETHING that cast DOUBT in IT for some ODD or UNKNOWN REASON.

One thing is for SURE, GREATER SOCIETY already EXPECT US to be SICK. Whenever they see a BLACK WOMAN and CHILD, that is all THEY SEE. When they see a BLACK MALE(S) in a SUV ALONE with no WOMAN and CHILDREN driving around that is what they KNOW.

Now that we have been EXPOSED, they now see our CHILDREN SICK too.

Not able to OVERCOME.

Blacks at greatest risk for divorce, professor says


Blacks at greatest risk for divorce, professor says

By Carol Lu
Princetonian Staff Writer

The depth and type of marital disruption in the United States differs by race and ethnicity, UCLA professor Megan Sweeney said yesterday afternoon in a lecture in Wallace Hall.

Sweeney's talk, entitled "Racial and Ethnic Variation in Marital Disruption," presented statistics on marital failure patterns in each of America's three prominent ethnicities: whites, blacks and Mexican Americans. Sweeney said that blacks historically have had a separation rate "significantly" greater than whites and Hispanics.

Sweeney said the spouse's background can be an obstacle to marital health.

"A number of elements are at play, and I wouldn't like to privilege one over another, but age at marriage appears to be important, as does poor education, and premarital cohabitation has perhaps the most ... impact."

Sweeney said couples are at a 50 percent greater risk of marital disruption if they lived together prior to marriage. Sociologists have identified three varieties of premarital cohabitation, each with its own risk value.

"Trial marriages," most popular among whites, are a way for people to test their compatibility and can result in relationship insecurity. "Substitutes for marriage," widespread in black and Hispanic communities, usually have high commitments and few separations. "Precursors for marriage" are similar to "substitutes" but have legal expectations associated with them.

"Meanings of cohabitations may tend to differ across racial and ethnic groups," Sweeney said, noting the potential of economic factors and cultural ideologies to predict marital success.

To unmarried black and Hispanic partners, cohabitation is often regarded as a legitimate surrogate for marriage, especially in lower socioeconomic areas.
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Now this is from a COLLEGE NEWSPAPER where YOUNG MINDS are SHAPED to RULE (becoming TEACHERS, DOCTORS, etc) or KEEP the PRINCES of POWER still in the AIR (the SYSTEM). This JUST CONFIRMS their INNER BELIEFS of KNOWING black relationships with marriage in the NATION. It also cast DOUBT in BLACK PEOPLE also since we INEVITABLE have to INTERACT with GREAT SOCIETY ways and EXPECTATIONS.

Maybe a STAR can SHINE some light on the SITUATION.

Will Smith has made a vow with HIMSELF and his wife Jada.

RD: You and Jada have been married nine years and, by all accounts, are very happy. What's the key?
Smith: Communication. And divorce cannot be an option.

RD: Your first marriage ended in divorce.
Smith: That is probably the most painful loss of my life. I quit. I could have fixed it. It really was not that bad.

RD: Some would say there's no reason to stay if a marriage isn't good.
Smith: Once you say that, you've lost. With Jada, I stood up in front of God and my family and friends and said, "Till death do us part." So there are two possible outcomes: We are going to be together till death, or I am dead.

RD: But people do have problems in marriage.
Smith: Jada and I have problems; everybody has problems. People ask, "What happens if you made a mistake?" Well, you should be a little more careful before you stand up in front of God and your family and friends and say, "Till death do us part."

But because of FACTORS we all cant be WILL.

But we all LOSE anyway if we just want to keep up with the demands of GREATER SOCIETY even in our HOME PERSONAL LIFE.
 

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