Black People Politics : Another view of Obama

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  1. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

    SPEAKFREEDOMnet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    First let me say Uhuru! (Freedom) to the Destee family.

    I was given the name Diop Adabuwale by my Elders. Though this is my first
    post I have been reading along and learning daliy for over a year now (honestly).
    I wanted to start a new thread with this post but couldn't figure out how? Help
    would be appreciated.

    I hope it's ok to post here as it has everything to do with the thread topic.
    If someone would give some direction I will create a new thred as not to
    intrude on this one. Thanks in advance. well here it goes..

    Another view of Obama​

    More than ever Africans need to start being realistic about our history,
    current condition and future in this stolen land called America!
    Africans were kidnapped and brought here for one purpose..slave labor!
    Four hundred years of rape, murder, black codes, Jim crow, willie lynch,
    segregation, whites only, colored section, lynchings, burning at the stake,
    cross burnings, KKK, skinheads, war on drugs, Tuskegee experiment,
    voting rights act, 3/5 a human, Katrina, Jena 6, Mumia, king, Malcolm,
    Garvey, Till, mis-education, denied business loans, sub-prime mortgage
    defaults, the Democrat and Republican party...shall I go on...proves this!

    At a time when things on the plantation are not so good...you know
    rumor has it that the Africans in chains are beginning to talk about
    seriously considering freedom..well now something has to be done
    to put a stop to this!

    We can't allow the means to our wealth to simply walk off the plantation.
    I mean what would happen to our privileged life style if our slaves
    suddenly stop working for us and started working for themselves, not to mention
    in their own land!

    Do you realize what's at stake bob? we're talking 50-60 billion dollars annualy
    in disposable income. not to mention the billions from the sports industry, the
    entertainment industry, the prison industry (which reminds me..bob we must
    never acknowledge reparations). If we allow them %^& to began to direct all of
    their monies and talents to re-developing their own country, Africa, who would
    shop at our stores? who would buy our products? who would pick up our trash
    or clean our houses? who would give us culture, who would serve in our military
    so that we can continue to invade any country that has natural resource?
    Bob don't you understand the crisis we have here?

    Those ungrateful &^*&$. You would think after all we have done for them they
    would be proud to be American!

    Bob were going to have to do more. I guess the token positions are running
    there course. And I thought for sure the addition of a few millionaire rappers
    and ball players would do the trick but those $&$% militants and their $#%
    black power %$#* just won't die out.

    Bob we can not allow this to continue. It will be to our destruction if we
    allow them *%&$ to finally organize themselves into a united nation in Africa,
    joining in solidarity with the rest of those terrorist nations seeking to destroy
    imperialism/capitalism!

    Bob what in Jesus name can we do?

    relax Jim-boy have you heard of this Obama character?

    To be continued..


    "Ni**az wanna be free but can't find the time" -Africa's Trigger​
     
  2. jamesfrmphilly

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    but what is your point? should we vote for biilary? should we vote for maccane? should we not vote at all?

    you are good at making a complaint, but what is your plan for positive action right now?
     
  3. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

    SPEAKFREEDOMnet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Uhuru!

    Uhuru!(Freedom) Brother James,

    Not complaining Just trying to get Africans focused. My point is that we have forgotten our "true" place in this stolen country..slaves (decedents of slaves). Instead of using our wisdom, talents, monies,and strength to escape this hell hole (now that massa is slippin) and return back to our OWN LAND, we have decided to throw in the towel and remain permanent slaves.

    Harriet Tubman once said (paraphrasing) she could have freed even more slaves if she could have convince them that they were slaves.

    Brother James I believe it is a waste of our time to vote for Obama or any other person running for president of this stolen country!

    OK..lets talk about change. First question for you (one that all Africans should be asking them selves)

    Is obama going to stop the U.S from practicing Imperialism/Neo-Colonialism? You know invading foreign countries, destroying their economies in the name of "fair trade", oppressing the natives, funding opposition groups to carry out coup d’état to secure the stealing of resources? More specifically what is he going to do to stop the U.S imposed Genocide of OUR Mother country Africa?

    Second question: Do you think its even possible for any man black or white to carry out the above question in this country, within this system?


    Uhuru!(Freedom)

    Ni**az wanna be free but can't find the time" -Africa's Trigger
     
  4. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

    SPEAKFREEDOMnet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Uhuru!(Freedom) Brother James,

    As I alluded to in my first post Obama is nothing more than a major
    distraction for Africans
    at this crucial time in present/history.
    What Africans need right now is a fresh out-look, a re-defining if you will of
    our rightful place as Africans. We need to be re-introduced to the term self
    determination
    .

    We need to learn what it means to be a self governed people. We need to
    understand that we are capable of deciding for ourselves how we will run our
    government, set up our educational curriculum, provide health care for all of
    our people, manage our natural resources, handle foreign relations, control
    our military, etc.

    Our men need to be re-trained how to love, protect and provide for our
    villages/communities, but we need OUR OWN land to provide a safe haven for
    this to be accomplished. When we control who gets hired, who gets a business
    loan, who gets the promotion, who gets the contract,who get excepted in to
    college.. when we control the corporations and sign the checks, we insure
    that our brothers maintain their MANHOOD and their Dignity..Not to mention the
    respect of our women and children which in turn ensures the survival of the
    village.

    We need to be teaching our African family how Imperialism, Capitalism,
    Colonialism and Neo-Colonialism works. And more importantly how it directly
    effects us as Africans
    . Do the masses of our people understand how the
    educational curriculum in the U.S. is designed to keep us trapped in this modernized slave
    system called capitalism? Are we working to prepare them to overcome this trap
    or "Be all you can be" in the trap?

    We should be busy re-educating the minds of our beautiful people to love,
    respect and honor their AFRICAN selves.

    We need to continue to encourage unity and organization between the African
    diaspora and our African family at home. We should be very interested in the
    affairs of our Africa, politically, socially, economically and culturally. However
    the european controlled media can not be the source of this information. We
    should learn a African tongue. These efforts along with others will help prepare
    us mentally and gives us great confidence in our desire to return home.

    We MUST teach our beautiful people to view our stuggle from an international
    perpective and not just and American perpective.

    So again I say voting for anybody in this stolen land is a waste of our
    time..we've got much better things to do (see above). Obama serves as a major
    distraction because he pulls the African right back into a helpless state of
    co-dependency/slavery via the democratic party
    . The same party who in your
    life time had a rooster with the words white supremacy across it as its logo. A
    party in a system with a 100% success rate of failing our people.:10500:

    Brother I don't want a Black man in the White house so he can "hopefully do
    better by us"...nah African I want FREEDOM! SELF DETERMINATION! in my OWN
    Country and I want it NOW! And I'm willing to bet that our native "american" brothers
    desire the same thing!


    The sooner we get started the sooner it becomes our reality!!

    Brother James if it's alright with you..I welcome all others to please jump in
    with their thoughts.

    Uhuru(Freedom)

    "Ni**az wanna be free but can't find the time" -Africa's Trigger
     
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    Brother SPEAKFREEDOMnet ... Hello and Welcome ... :wave:

    Wow ... you've been reading daily for a whole year?! I'm glad you decided to join and share with us.

    I've gone ahead and made your posts (and responses) a separate thread.

    To make a new thread ... all you have to do is click inside any of the forums listed below (where you'll see a list of all the thread titles inside) ... on that page ... toward the top left, you'll find a NEW THREAD image ... [​IMG] ... just click on that image, and a new thread screen will appear. Just fill it out and click on the SUBMIT button.

    If you have more questions, just ask, and please make yourself at home ... because you are.

    Much Love and Peace.

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    before we go any further will you please explain to me why you use the n word?
     
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    most of what you're saying has already been said before,you say in my own country,which country is that?
     
  8. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

    SPEAKFREEDOMnet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank U Sister Destee

    First for the warm greeting into your family.

    I must admit (and I'm sure it holds true for many others) that it is quite intimidating when you consider joining the discussions here. On the one hand your joyed to find such scholarship and wisdom to learn from, yet terrified to add your puny little two cents:eek:oops:.....:D

    I've just decided to speak from the heart..you know. I'm excited to officially be in house. I look forward to building with those I have been learning from for the past year..including U!

    By the way thanks for the info on posting. I just need to figure out the avatar next.
     
  9. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

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    Uhuru!(Freedom) Brother James,

    Actually the entire line (as my signature) reads "Ni**az wanna be free but can't find the time" -Africa's Trigger

    It is a quote from one of our brothers in the artistry of rhyme and music. He goes by the stage name Africa's Trigger.

    Now I personally do not use the n word as you can tell from my post..I prefer the word African.

    You would have to hear the song in its entirety to catch the context of the phrase. But I'm sure you can understand the main/important point being made. I firmly believe it's do to the strangle hold of capitalism that makes this phrase ring so true (especially for Africans in the U.S). un-employment, high taxes, inflation, high gas prices, slave labor wages, an unhealthy appetite for consumption, debt. All of these factors along with others keep Africans preoccupied with simply trying to survive on a daily/monthly basis.

    Now throw in the weekend party's, ball games, trips to the beach front condo to play golf, and there is very little time left to free our people!

    Brother James, out of love for you and not wanting our communication/progress to be hindered I will refrain from using the quote. Collective over Individualism:grouphug:

    Also still standing:

    Brother James I believe it is a waste of our time to vote for Obama or any other person running for president of this stolen country!

    OK..lets talk about change. First question for you (one that all Africans should be asking them selves)

    Is Obama going to stop the U.S from practicing Imperialism/Neo-Colonialism? You know invading foreign countries, destroying their economies in the name of "fair trade", oppressing the natives, funding opposition groups to carry out coup d’état to secure the stealing of resources? More specifically what is he going to do to stop the U.S imposed Genocide of OUR Mother country Africa?

    Second question: Do you think its even possible for any man black or white to carry out the above question in this country, within this system?


    "If I could have convinced more slaves that they were slaves, I could have freed thousands more"-Harriet Tubman (1820-1913)
     
  10. SPEAKFREEDOMnet

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    Uhuru!(Freedom)Brother Oldiesman,

    Thanks you for joining the thread.

    Absolutely it has been said before. And it should be said again! In fact it should be taught, preached, rhymed, painted, reported, etc, until the masses of our people are DOING it!

    Lets re-visit the 1960's for a moment when Black was Beautiful. What caused this "coming together" of the Africa masses around the concept of Black is Beautiful? Well for starters we shared the same pain, suffering and brutality at the hands of Massa and his oppressive system of slavery(we have this today). This of course fueled the continuation of a long line of revolutionary freedom fighters(got this too). But something was re-emphasized within the cry for freedom in the sixties and that something was self determination i.e. Black Power! (this is what were missing)

    Not since the defeat of the Garvey Movement and Black Wall Street were Africans in the masses encouraged to control their own destiny! And we enthusiastically embraced it, once again! As a result we began to see exactly what was suggested above..Black Power was taught, preached, rhymed, painted, reported, etc. And from this atmosphere once again, Black became Beautiful.

    Would you say Black is still Beautiful today amoung our masses?

    Now the next obvious question should be why do our attempts at freedom/self determination keep failing?

    Brother Oldiesman as not to "hog" the convo..maybe you can give your take on why we continue to fail at "true" freedom/self determination and then I will post my thoughts.


    Now Brother Oldiesman I'm sure you know as well as I do that those invisible borders that make up the 50 countries in Africa were created in 1884-85 at the Berlin Conference, when Europeans got together without our approval or participation to divide our land for their exploitation. It was referred to as the "Scramble for Africa".

    In fact what you see happening in Africa today is a continuation of this only now it's covered in Neo-colonialism. Yet we also see with the weakening of Imperialism a more blatant attempt to re-colonize the land. I.E. Africom.

    To answer your question more directly..when I refer to My Own Country I'm referring to the entire collective continent. A sovereign, self governed people are not bound by limitations they have not establish themselves.

    Now brother I am not naive to the many dialects and cultural expressions of our people through out the continent. If fact I view this as a good thing. Besides Africans have never had a problem with excepting diversity. But we must re-train our minds to stop viewing that diversity as a negative. We must stop using this as an excuse to reject any effort to re-connect with Africa.

    Yes Brother Oldiesman Africa in general is a mess. But so are we (the African diaspora). Because we have been the victim of the same beast! This beast has taught us hate one another, to distrust one another, to betray one another, to love him more than we love ourselves. It's called Divide and Conquer!

    Brother Oldiesman as not to "hog" the convo..maybe you can give your take on why we continue to fail at "true" freedom/self determination and then I will post my thoughts.

    Uhuru!

    "If I could have convinced more slaves that they were slaves, I could have freed thousands more"-Harriet Tubman (1820-1913)
     
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