Law Forum : ANOTHER TUSKEEGEE EXPERIMENT?

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  1. Kemetstry

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    Noah Berger/For The Center for Investigative Reporting
    Crystal Nguyen, with her 6-year-old son, Neiko, in Pittsburg, Calif., is a former Valley State Prison for Women inmate. She worked in the prison's infirmary in 2007 and says she often overheard medical staff asking inmates who had served multiple prison terms to agree to be sterilized.

    By Corey G. Johnson
    Center for Investigative Reporting
    Publish date: July 8, 2013

    Doctors under contract with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation sterilized nearly 150 female inmates from 2006 to 2010 without required state approvals, The Center for Investigative Reporting has found.
    At least 148 women received tubal ligations in violation of prison rules during those five years – and there are perhaps 100 more dating back to the late 1990s, according to state documents and interviews.

    From 1997 to 2010, the state paid doctors $147,460 to perform the procedure, according to a database of contracted medical services for state prisoners.

    The women were signed up for the surgery while they were pregnant and housed at either the California Institution for Women in Corona or Valley State Prison for Women in Chowchilla, which is now a men’s prison.

    Former inmates and prisoner advocates maintain that prison medical staff coerced the women, targeting those deemed likely to return to prison in the future.

    Crystal Nguyen, a former Valley State Prison inmate who worked in the prison’s infirmary during 2007, said she often overheard medical staff asking inmates who had served multiple prison terms to agree to be sterilized.

    “I was like, ‘Oh my God, that’s not right,’ ” Nguyen, 28, said. “Do they think they’re animals, and they don’t want them to breed anymore?”

    One former Valley State inmate who gave birth to a son in October 2006 said the institution’s OB-GYN, Dr. James Heinrich, repeatedly pressured her to agree to a tubal ligation.

    “As soon as he found out that I had five kids, he suggested that I look into getting it done. The closer I got to my due date, the more he talked about it,” said Christina Cordero, 34, who spent two years in prison for auto theft. “He made me feel like a bad mother if I didn’t do it.”

    Cordero, released in 2008 and now living in Upland, Calif., agreed, but she says, “today, I wish I would have never had it done.”

    The allegations echo those made nearly a half-century ago, when forced sterilizations of prisoners, the mentally ill and the poor were commonplace in California. State lawmakers officially banned such practices in 1979.

    During an interview with CIR, Heinrich said he provided an important service to poor women who faced health risks in future pregnancies because of past cesarean sections. The 69-year-old Bay Area physician denied pressuring anyone and expressed surprise that local contract doctors had charged for the surgeries. He described the $147,460 total as minimal.

    “Over a 10-year period, that isn’t a huge amount of money,” Heinrich said, “compared to what you save in welfare paying for these unwanted children – as they procreated more.”

    The top medical manager at Valley State Prison from 2005 to 2008 characterized the surgeries as an empowerment issue for female inmates, providing them the same options as women on the outside. Daun Martin, a licensed psychologist, also claimed that some pregnant women, particularly those on drugs or who were homeless, would commit crimes so they could return to prison for better health care.



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    SOP

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    Brutha, eugenics hasn't stopped since it was instated. It just went by other names.

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    I know, that's why I typed SOP. (standard operating procedure)

    or maybe i should have typed SOS lol

    either way we are still enemies of the state ain't nothin' change like you said.
     
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    Not another "Tuskegee Experiment," just good old fashioned Eugenics.

    From another thread:

    35 years after the last gassed Jew, Gypsy, black mulatto German and Russian solider, and forced sterilization of German "mental defectives" by Hitler, California was still LEGALLY carrying out his vision. Now it appears, they're STILL carrying out the vision of the Head Nazi in Charge to get rid of future welfare 'procreators'... behind closed doors and outside the law.
     
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    People forgot just how popular Hitler's ideas were







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    Because education and a job just wont do





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    Yeah...Even better:lol::toast:

    You spoke truth in that other thread bruh when you said that "movies have a bit of truth in them". I'm thinking back on some of the flicks I've seen that have used inmates for experimental purposes. Especially the ones that were on death row, or facing life. The system has always seen the prison system as a boon to provide the bodies they needed for road work and farming (back in the day), to medical experimentation as we see today.

    This one ranks in my top ten. If you read the full article, notice how they try and absolve him of his deeds.

    J. Marion Sims, Surgeon or Monster?

    It seems that the main contention really is that Dr. Sims did not administer an anesthetic to the African slave women. This write acknowledges that was indeed unfortunate and not what I would wish on the worlds worst people. It was unfortunate because those women suffered great great pain. Some of them were repeatedly operated on by Dr. Sims to correct the problem, some to the tune of over 30 times. It is unimaginable the pain these particular women went through.
    http://www.east-harlem.com/mt/archives/000149.html

    The thing is, he only used a few of white women, and he gave ALL of the anesthesia.

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