Black People : Another Stolen Election?

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  1. phynxofkemet

    phynxofkemet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hi Everyone!

    The following is an email I received from the Color of Change Network, I would like to share it with the forum - for those who are interested in the political games being played in the Democratic Party...


    Some leaders in the Democratic Party are playing with fire. They think that they can betray the will of millions of voters and choose Hillary Clinton as the nominee, regardless of whether or not she is the choice of the voters. We can't let this happen. It would be the largest disenfranchisement in modern history, and it would mean the Democratic Party giving their stamp of approval to a clear and consistent pattern of race-baiting by the Clinton campaign.

    If we make our voices heard, we can stop it. Please join us in signing an open letter to leaders in the Democratic Party -- DNC Chair Howard Dean, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and all superdelegates -- demanding that they reject an outcome that involves trampling voting rights and legitimizing the politics of division and fear:

    http://colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2035-518646

    By the time the last vote is cast on June 3rd under the rules of the Democratic Party, it's unlikely Hillary Clinton will beat Barack Obama among voters.1 But there's a chance that superdelegates will hand Clinton the nomination anyway.

    This would be a shocking attack on democracy, and it would destroy the Democratic Party's credibility on protecting the right to vote. Black people have a long history of fighting against voter suppression, and now the Democratic Party will be the enemy in that fight. As bad as that would be, there's another reason that a coup by party insiders would threaten racial progress.

    Senator Clinton's plan to have superdelegates hand her the nomination relies on a parallel strategy -- she has to stoke enough division and race-based fear among Democratic voters to convince superdelegates that white voters will not vote for Senator Obama in the general election.2 One of Clinton's key arguments to superdelegates is that America won't elect a Black man, and therefore she's the better choice for Democrats to beat John McCain.3,4 While she makes that argument in private to superdelegates, in public, Clinton's campaign and her surrogates are doing everything they can to damage Barack Obama by ginning up fear and division and playing to the worst instincts of our society. It's an insult to Black people and all Americans, Obama and Clinton supporters alike.

    The pattern has been clear and consistent to some party leaders. Last week, according to the Washington Post, James Clyburn -- who as House Majority Whip remains neutral and is the highest ranking Black member of Congress -- accused the Clintons of marginalizing Black voters.5 Referring to this strategy in another interview, Clyburn said that "Nothing in this campaign has been by accident."6

    Congressman Clyburn warned that "black people are incensed" over the divisiveness of the Clinton strategy and that it threatens an irreparable breach between Black people and the Democratic Party.7 He's right. And if superdelegates hand Clinton a victory despite her defeat among voters, they will be condoning and rewarding that strategy.

    Some party leaders have expressed strong concern about superdelegates overruling voters.8,9 But as a whole, superdelegates have not made it clear that they will respect the will of voters. Today, we want to send a clear, unequivocal message to superdelegates and other party leaders: Reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters.

    Please join us:

    http://colorofchange.org/dems/?id=2035-518646

    -- James, Van, Gabriel, Clarissa, Mervyn, Andre, and the rest of the ColorOfChange.org team
    May 2nd, 2008

    References:

    1. "Analysis: Time, delegate math working against Clinton," AP, 04-18-2008
    http://***********/3rzn45

    2. Keith Olbermann Special Comment on Clinton Campaign, MSNBC, 03-12-2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ2JtUmB3kc

    3. "Mark Halperin Explains the Clinton Argument for Staying In," Mark Halperin on FOX News, 03-28-2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ3Gyum4434

    4. "Clinton ally: Some whites 'not ready' for Obama," AP, 02-12-2008
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23134717/

    5. "Party Fears Racial Divide," Washington Post, 04-26-2008
    http://***********/4aoj6h

    6. "Vexing Issue for the Clinton Campaign: What to Make of Bill?," New York Times, 04-29-2008
    http://***********/475g5b

    7. "Black Leader in House Denounces Bill Clinton's Remarks," The Caucus, 04-24-2008
    http://***********/3hn8aj

    8. "Brazile: I'll Quit DNC Position Over Superdelegates," News & Notes, 02-11-2008
    http://***********/4emgl3

    9. "Brazile: Howard Dean And Other Party Leaders Should Be Prepared To Step In," TPM Election Central, 03-05-2008
    http://***********/3dfm6s
     
  2. Da Street So'ja

    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    i say this is all for nothing

    i hear your position

    but MCCAIN WINS

    JEB BUSH IS VICE PRESIDENT

    HELLO

    you heard it here first

    so the dems can fight and bicker

    if they like
     
  3. phynxofkemet

    phynxofkemet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Um no....

    I really don't see McCain in office not that I try, but....
    the point is that Obama must be the one to face McCain. It is his destiny and his right. And yes, it does make a difference.
    If we are to have change we must believe it is possible, no? Otherwise what's the use of trying to do anything if nothing could ever change for our benefit?

    Obama has the support of many many people, including the ancestors that helped to bring him this far.
    The gates for change of open now, and he's going to walk through it. we need to support him.
     
  4. Da Street So'ja

    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    and on 9/11 we didn't see planes flying into buildings


    either

    sista i'm with you i feel your position trust me

    i don't want to see this

    but "this" is not our game

    MCCAIN WILL WIN JEB BUSH VICE PRESIDENT

    i don't like it either
     
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    change is in the air.....

    this is the most interesting and educational election i have ever seen.
    it is all being laid out there for you to see.
    the entire world is watching.

    :qqb004:
     
  6. thePreacher

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    I also think McCain will be the next prez, irregardless of who ends up with the Democratic nomination. It fits with what I know about the American electoral system. The game is rigged so that the president is _ALWAYS_ the person who gets the majority of white America's votes and most white Americans are not going to vote for Hillary or Obama.
     
  7. phynxofkemet

    phynxofkemet Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Willing to Bet...

    Remember folks, that absolutely nothing stays the same forever... and there is a great deal going on in America right now that the next president will have to handle, including the recession. Obama is chosen to run, and the fear of his success is what has the media in uproar. The majority of white America vote for McCain? Hmmm.... I have a feeling that much of White America strongly desires to appear non-racial, to put a new face on their old regime and that might just be Obama. I'm willing to bet on this, whoever wants in agrees that the losing side writes a poem about the election. :em3200:

    Yep, I'm a nut!
     
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