Black Spirituality Religion : An Examination of "Sacred Texts"

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  1. OmowaleX

    OmowaleX Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    RACIAL MYTHS IN EGYPT AND EUROPE

    There are several "myths" concerning the role of the "worship of animals" in antiquity. Were these animals viewed as "holy" or "sacred" divinities?

    I shall consider the following in regards to this question.

    "On a particular date demons are let loose, and the peasant is warned not to lead an ox with a rope at any time during the day, lest one of them should enter the animal and cause it to gore him. An animal, therefore, was not feared or worshipped for its own sake, but because it was liable to be posessed by a good or evil spirit."

    In reference to the crocidile...

    "In certain parts of Egypt the crocidile was also worshipped, and was immune from attack, in others it was ruthlessly hunted down. As late as Roman times the people of one nome waged war against those of another because their sacred animals being slain by the rival religious organization."

    This scenario is a far cry from the "peace and balance" that some would mis-lead us to believe existed in this context.

    Let us now consider the "pig".

    "Certain animals or reptiles were regarded as the protectors of certain districts. A particular animal might be looked upon by one tribe as an incarnation of their deity, and another as the incarnation of their Satan. The black pig, for instance, was associated by the Egyptians with Set, who was the god of a people who conquered and oppressed them in pre-Dynastic times. Horus is depicted standing on the back of the pig piercing its head with a lance; its legs and jaws are fettered with chains. But the pig was also a form of Osiris, "the good god".

    However, "The Egyptians regarded the pig as an unclean animal. Herodotus relates that if they touched it casually, they at once plunged into water to purify themselves."

    So, can one reasonably argue that ancient Egyptians did NOT eat the pig because of its "divine nature" while it was viewed as "unclean swine"?

    "In the Highlands, even in our own day, there survives a strong prejudice against pork, and the black pig is identified with the devil."

    Why is the BLACK "pig" identified with the devil?

    Upon further examination, "In the Golden Bough, Professor Frazer shows that the pig was tabooed because it was at one time a sacred animal identified with Osiris. Once a year, according to Herodotus, pigs were sacrificed in Egypt to the moon and to Osiris. The moon pig was eaten, but the pigs offered to Osiris were slain in front of house doors and given back to the swineheards from whom they were purchased."

    "When the Egyptians, therefore, sacrificed a pig to the moon, and feasted upon it like Set, they ate the god. They did not eat the pig sacrificed to Osiris, because apparently it represented the enemy of the god; they simply slew it, and thus slew Set."

    Concerning the tradition of the "fish fry", "Once a year, on the ninth day of the month of Thoth, the Egyptians ate fried fish at their house doors; the priests offered up their share by burning them. Certain fish were not eaten by the ancient Britons. The eel is still abhorred in Scotland: it was sacred and tabooed in Egypt also."


    What about the "divinity" of birds.

    "We have referred in the Introduction to the goose which laid the sun egg. Apparently this bird was at one time sacred. Although it was a popular article of diet in ancient Egypt, and was favored especially by the priests, it was probably eaten chiefly in the winter season."


    http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/eml/eml08.htm


    In most of instances, these animals were somehow identified with "the corn spirit", and CORN was a staple of the Egyptian diet.
     
  2. OmowaleX

    OmowaleX Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "Jesus" Casts Devils Out of the Swine

    There are some who assert the so-called "Abrahamic Faiths" are of euroepan origin with no basis in ancient Egypt. This is totally erroneous just as are false claims that ancient Egyptians (people of KMT) did NOT eat meat, on any occasion. Completely ridiculous!

    In fact, the story or parable of "Jesus" casting swine is related to the pre-Dynastic worship of KHONSU, and the previously mentioned ritual concerning the SET-PIG.


    http://paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/jesus_casts_devils_out_pigs.htm

    Muslims who do not eat "swine" are observing the ancient practice based upon the tradition that "The pig will be abdominable to Horus."
     
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    Why all the trivial perversion of sacred texts? Perhaps an attempt to detract attention from the spiritual aspect of them?
     
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    nature of Polytheism

    Peace and Greetings;

    Excellent post OmowaleX.

    I don’t think specific members will respond because even I have shown them ancient text that was written by the hands of actual ancient Egyptians. They are not interested in these ancient writings because it disrupts their false propaganda about how Egypt existed in perfect harmony between each tribe and had a unity of peace and understanding of one another’s religion.

    In reality even the ancient text reveals Egypt was constantly at war over religion and doctrines were even written to mock one another’s gods and deities.

    They don’t want to admit that war is the nature of Polytheism (Neteru).

    Even after the foreign African Egyptian tribes ousted most of the native Egyptians they continued to go into a 30 years civil war over the gods, theology and religion. Through this 30-year civil war we see Osiris replace Amun to become the new state god.

    Peace.
     
  5. OmowaleX

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    Greetings Brother Music Producer!

    I hear what you are saying.

    You know, I am going back and just trying to be more determined to in following the teachings of my own Father in these regards. Which is why I tend to agree with you on some issues, if not all.

    In fact, I kinda use the Bible as a "guide", kinda like a star map. I think most of the "historical personages" are more or less references to "Nations" of BLACK people, and the Bible chronicles the divisions within this Original "nation" and how each rebelled against the other. In other words, a record of HOW "We", Black people dispersed our Self, or how "God" divided US "from within".

    The "Fall from Eden" is a metaphor of this "falling" out of favor with each other and the ensuing Chaos resulting from our own failure to live according to the principles of "Maat".

    Our ancestors and elders are still "tricking" us, while we debate tricking the very matrix which our ancestors and elders created to keep us from distancing ourselves from our true nature. But we sill dont get it.

    For example, how can any Negro today claim that folks in ancoent Egypt (KMT) lived in relative harmony when the Ritual of the Set-pig is PRE-Dynastic, recorded in the Pyramid AND the Coffin Texts.

    Brother, its so bad that some folks even wanna give "europeans" credit for the ART of Cooking Bar-Be-Cue, fried fish and refined dairy products. All to "prove" that meat-eating, dairy cultivation and fish farming were practices created by "white people" and did not exist in Africa until it was "europeanized".

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Our ancestors, in the Ritual of the Set-pig identified for Us the nature of the "enemy within".

    The BLACK "Pigs".

    Aint this analogous to the agents and lackies of Cointelpro?

    Yep. And here they are, polluting Black THINK TANKS diverting our attention from them (the REAL enemy within) while trying to keep us focused on the external (yt).

    Str8 up Spiritual Warfare!

    Sad part is when folks reject African Sacred texts in favor of the myths and lies propagated by plagarists such as herodotus.

    I guess we can attribute this to those who advance the "divinity" of every unclean pig, fish, cow and bird that Deuteronomy warns us against.

    Folks got it so confused that they claim as "divine" the very same PIGS that the Ancient reviled as unclean.

    Wow!
     
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    Now I KNOW why the Black Panthers referred to some of these folks as "pork chop nationalists."

    :cake:
     
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    The Coffin Texts

    One set of Sacred Texts are known as the Coffin Texts.

    "The Coffin Texts, which superceded the Pyramid Texts as magical funerary spells at the end of the Egyptian Old Kingdom, are principally a Middle Kingdom phenomenon, although examples have been found as early as the late Old Kingdom. They democratized the afterlife by removing the royal exclusivity of the Pyramid Texts."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_Texts

    This point concerning how the conception of the afterlife was "democratized" is very important. It is a CONCEPTION of the afterlife, which some falsly mis-interpret as a reflection of reality.

    For example, this is what leads some to interpret the symbolism of hue-men and "pigs" (for example) living in "harmony" in certain artistic depictions as a reflection of "reality" while the fact is the "pig" was reviled prior to the supercession of the Pyramid texts and was seen as an "evil spirit", which laer was "deified" when the "Sethians" arose to ascendancy within the Egyptian nobility.

    "In some cases these descriptions were supplemented by illustrations and maps of the underworld called "The Book of the Two Ways".

    It is very critical to KNOW how this Book of the Two Ways changed the ancient Egyptian conception of the Afterlife, and HOW this was integrated generations later by the Egyptian Coptic and Ethiopian Orthodox churches and codified into the Two Ways, represented by the Biblical Old and New testaments...the Two Ways, the Old and the New.


    :laugh:
     
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    Animal Mutilation Scenes in the Coffin Texts

    Some have narrowly argued, based on a few artistic depictions in some funerary scenes, that Africans did not "eat" animals prior to "europeanization" and that these "animals" were viewed as "divinities".

    True to a certain extent, but not totally.

    And this is evident in the Coffin Texts.

    Consider the following.

    "Yet the ancient Egyptians were cautious of graphic depictions. One holdover from the Pyramid Texts that we find at least in the early Coffin Texts is the mutilation of most of the hieroglyphic signs representing animate objects. Sometimes the glyphs are actually carved as two separate pieces divided by a blank space. At other times, snakes, other animals and various other creatures are inscribed with knives in their backs. This was all intended to ensure that the intact figure would not be able to somehow threaten the deceased person interred nearby."
    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/coffintext.htm
     
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    Mans Soul Identified with Both Osiris and With Nature

    "Whether I live or die I am Osiris,
    I enter in and reappear through you,
    I decay in you, I grow in you,
    I fall down in you, I fall upon my side.
    The gods are living in me for I live and grow in the corn.
    that sustains the Honoured Ones.
    I cover the earth,
    whether I live or die I am Barley.
    I am not destroyed.
    I have entered the Order.
    I become Master of the Order,
    I emerge in the Order.
    I make my form distinct,
    I am the Lord - of the Chennet
    I have entered into the Order.
    I have reached its limits..."​




    Peace!​
     
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    How this relates to the "Bible"

    In previous threads I have written concerning "problems with chronology" and this stems from certain similarities in relation to compilation. Just as the Bible is a compilation of various sources by multiple authors, the same can be said concening the "Book of the Dead", the "Coffin Texts, the "Book of Gates", the "Pyramid texts" ad infinum.

    In reference to the Coffin Texts, it has been written, "Today we face many of the same problems in dealing with the coffin text that de Buck faced, which mostly concerns their order. He had no established chronological order and the beginnings or ending of the text were not consistent from one source to the next. Furthermore, the text could be written on all six surfaces in the interior of the coffin, and their progression within any given coffin could vary."

    Again, this lack of "Order" is indicative of "imbalance" and this is further complicated by "inconsistency".

    How then can one even comtemplate arguing the historicity of these texts are representing "Maat" when the very method of their compilation is "imbalanced"?

    And as far as "scratching the surface", it is the false interpretation of these texts which lends to superficiality, speculation and straight-out lies and mis-interpretation based on mis-information of mythic proportions.
     
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