Black People : American Dream - Nightmare for Black Families

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  1. Destee

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    New report confirms that the American Dream is a nightmare for most black families

    16/11/2007

    A new report published this week by the Economic Mobility Project has revealed that the ability of black families to climb the economic ladder – to realise the American Dream, is severely limited for black families, with even middle income blacks earning less than their parents.

    Black Britain examined the report written by Julia Isaacs from the Brooking Institution, who examined Census data and made a comparison between family income of parents in the 1960s and their children’s income in the late 1990s to the early 2000s. The findings make grim reading. While the offspring of white middle income families are able to earn more than their parents did, for black families in most cases the opposite is true. The findings reveal that the majority of children from black middle income families actually earn less than their parents.

    In the 30 years between 1974 and 2004, both black and white men in their 30s experienced a drop in their income, but the fall was more severe for black men. Despite this trend, overall the median income for families rose, because of large increases in the income of women, especially white women. In short, the trend of black middle income children earning less than their parents is largely due to the decline in the income of black men, which has had a severe impact on the economic status of black families.

    According to the report, low income growth for black men combined with low marriage rates in the black population “has had a negative impact on trends in family incomes of blacks in the United States.” It further argues that economic success in the parental generation among black families does not afford protection for children from economic adversity in the way it does among white families.

    What this report demonstrates is that as far as blacks are concerned, the American Dream has all but become the “nightmare” referred to by Malcolm X more than 40 years ago when he said: *“I see America through the eyes of the victim. I don’t see any American Dream; I see an American nightmare.”

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    Now why did you post this Destee? You don't have the right to destroy the great illusion that our people have concerning "all the progress" they done made since the 60's. And in regard to the idea that there's some hidden conspiracy against the rise of the black male?....how dare you post something that might make our black women aware that it actually exist !!...and even worse, with all the crazy stuff I been posting and saying, why would you put something up there that might not make me seem so crazy after all???...and of all the things to boot, why would you post something up here that would make our people aware that in reality we are doing worse than we were 40 years ago???....Weeez gone hazz a black prezzident!
     
  3. Desert Storm

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    I'd have to agree about the American dream being referred to by Malcom X as the American nightmare.

    There is a real breaking of the black family structure and support system in America. I like a lot of other black americans have experienced in gripping ways.

    Umm.. I don't know what else really to say other than I have always seen the "American Dream" to depend upon who you are talking about. My American Dream is not so much to have all the money in the world but to have what I need to have and to have good family ties. Somethings are cultural in that way. Not saying that we don't strive from day to day to have and obtain certain things, however their is a conflict of interest in the "American Dream" "American Dream" seems to benefit white people more due to a variety of reasons. In that sense, I don't really know if the "American Dream" was intended for us and Malcom X realized that quite some time ago.

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  4. Steve69

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    Here is some info directly from the US census bureau, which shows we are better off. A lot just want to ignore.

    20.7 million
    The estimated black population in the United States in 1964. On July 1, 2003, blacks numbered an estimated 38.7 million. <http://www.census.gov/statab/hist/HS-02.pdf>
    <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/race/001839.html>

    Income and Poverty
    $18,859
    Median family income of blacks in 1964 (in inflation-adjusted 2002 dollars). In 2002, the black median family income was $33,634. <http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/dinctabs.html>

    $20,805 and $13,085
    Median income of black men and black women who worked full time year-round in 1964 (in inflation-adjusted 2002 dollars). In 2002, the corresponding income levels were $31,966 and $27,703. <http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/dinctabs.html>

    41.8%
    Poverty rate for blacks in 1966 — two years after passage of the Civil Rights Act. In 2002, the poverty rate for blacks was 23.9 percent. <http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/histinc/histpovtb.html>

    Elected Officials
    1,469
    Number of black elected officials in 1970, the first year this kind of information was collected. By 2001, the number had reached a high of 9,101. (Data courtesy of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies.)
    <http://www.jointcenter.org/>

    892
    Number of black elected officials in Mississippi in 2001, which had a higher total than any other state. Two other states in the deep South, Alabama and Louisiana, were next, with 756 and 705 black elected officials, respectively. (Data courtesy of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies.) <http://www.jointcenter.org/>

    High School Graduates
    26%
    Percentage of blacks age 25 and over in 1964 who had at least a high school diploma. By 2003, this rate had risen to 80 percent. <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/001863.html>

    2.4 million
    Number of blacks 25 years old and over with at least a high school diploma in 1964. This number had risen to 16.4 million in 2003. <http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/education/p20-138.html> and <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/001863.html>

    College Students and Graduates
    306,000
    Number of black college students in 1964. By 2002, this number had risen to
    2.3 million. <http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/school/tabA-1.pdf>

    4%
    Percentage of blacks age 25 and over in 1964 who were college graduates. By 2003, this rate
    had risen to 17 percent. <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/001863.html>

    365,000
    Number of blacks who had at least a bachelor’s degree in 1964. In 2003, 10 times as many, 3.6 million, had achieved this level of education. <http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/education/p20-138.html> and <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/001863.html>
     
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    Those 2 words seem to clash with each other; "american" and "dream".
     
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    au contraire!! They fit together perfectly! :lol: :lol:
     
  7. mrron

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    steve69, perhaps you missed the point. This thread is suppose to be about more doom and gloom. No one here wants any positive news, because it conflicts with their views on what the white man has done to us poor little black folk.

    No! We are not getting a black President. The United States will be getting it's first black President, and he will not be elected to be the President of black people only. But I think the negative tone about this, from certain people here, is just indicative of why we can't get any where. Even when we achieve status in high positions, there are those whose only practice in life is to pull us down into the fire with them, and to ridicule those who succeed.

    These kinds of negative views should be kept away from our children, because it will only justify to them reasons to continue to fail, gangbang, sell drugs, drop out of school etc. And when you ask them why, they have a ready made answer, "because the white man won't let me succeed".

    Sorry destee, but your article stinks, and the American Dream is alive and well for everyone who wishes to participate. But in order to participate you must first prepare for it, and that requires hard work.
     
  8. Destee

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    Brother MrRon ... no need to be sorry ... it's not my article.

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  9. Steve69

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    We seem to waste our time on the wrong things. It would be like us building houses with no windows or just holes in the walls and then complaining about our heating bills are unfairly high because of our race. And if we complain loud enough and make enough noise other people will not notice the holes in the walls. We of course would also wear earplugs so if they did say something we could more easily ignore it.

    But if we could not ignore it we would insist we still be allowed to build houses our way and somebody else figure out a way to solve our problem so we don’t have to do any real work.

    We spent a lot of years fighting to end Apartheid in South Africa and ignoring other problems. Since the end of Apartheid in South Africa they now have a much higher crime rate and income for blacks has actually Decreased there.
     
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