Black People Politics : America is the Fall before Rome

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  1. willa

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    This book is amazing for it's evil rhetoric to create chaos within this American nation. Just for starts lets go over a very few pages. Introduction --"...students being forced to take history" Oh, man our schools should kick out history and erase all knowledge coming up from there, because you would like us to lose our identity. (Students) "...they also learn history especially poorly." Kind of rough sentence structure for somebody who writes for commercial Anarchy. "Students are also alienated through Social Studies." Oh, now let's kick out Social Studies, shall we? Is that because your icon societies are Russia and the Middle East? They are so Socially caring for their citizen's social achievements. They don't care who anyone's family is whether they eat or starve.

    Further you like the construct of this book and are sympathetic to "teachers who abandoned their overstuffed text books to REINVENT their American history" for their students. I'm glad it has been admitted that some Communistic teachers which I have said before in this forum that our Kids were learning hateful doctrine REINVENTed and corrupted. One example of that kind of teacher is revealed with this statement, "A colleague of mine calls his text Survey of American history "Iconclasm" because we have historical heroes many who died for our cause. I've read that survey and there isn't anything in there that isn't proven through record documentation.

    Students don't need to sleep through class because history reports are proven in this nation through signatures and witnesses.

    See, normal language would not use "working class parents". Only Communism uses Communist buzz words that speaks in terms of working and money class. Patriotism for our citizens is not blind but proven, Civil War - World War One - World War Two and all wars that took us to put down Communist and Socialist dictator threats even for our allies whose nations also keep records from witnesses.

    Another Communist Buzz word is Nationalism to replace Patriotism because Communist provocateurs want to destroy our identity and loyalty to our homeland. These also want to destroy gratitude for what we have accomplished in America, so that we will think Russia is so much better because of Communism. A word that gives you a rash ogoun is democracy, because democracy won't march in lockstep. How does Communism feel about demonstrations and criticism of Putin. How does the President of Syria feel about demonstrations? The Middle East and Russia never have been called "The Land of the Free" which this book scorns just like you or you wouldn't have posted it to convince us.

    How many people are running into the countries that you love for their governments? Russia is not welcoming .

    Hope your weekend had good food in it.
     
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    No one is going to have to worry about any master race because there are going to big changes that people will only be worried about their own families.
    One of the great failings of mankind is to ignore warnings of punishment for the wicked. In all ages of the world it has been the peculiar belief of men that the sayings of the prophets were to be fulfilled in times still in the future. That is true of the people today. However the signs indicate we are the people where in all the prophecies will be fulfilled in our life time. Headed over to religion to talk about some already come to pass.
     
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    Like listening to a broken record that keeps skipping back three tracks over and over and over...............................................

    I must say though of all the reviews and critiques I've read, both the raves and the pans, of "Lies My Teacher Told Me" yours is the first one that has detected the secret hidden code from the russkis for the overthrow of the USA.
    Curses! The plot has been foiled!
     
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    To all,
    People in today's free citizen country have the privilege of joining the Communist Party and advocating for it. But, Communist Americans actually have never lived in the experience of those countries under it's continued enslaving dominance of it's people. That is the big difference. It's easy to live in America and say you are a card carrying communist. You are not living under forced control. In our democracy you can go anywhere you want, work to be anything you want, speak your opinions and criticisms. All your personal communism here does is take up card space in your wallet because you in reality are living in a free Democracy.

    "Lies My Teacher Told Me" one of many books for the convincing of people who feel like they want the virtue of across the board egalitarian life. That is the deceit Communism sells to those they designate as people who will more likely be convinced that Communism and Socialism will serve them. Communism does not serve individuals. The reason for their lectures and books is to convince everyone that there should be no cash dream, that is "greedy". Instead, look to the rainbow of equal distribution of wealth. In those actual Communist countries, what wealth? The people don't have it. Where'd it go? Into the hands of the dominating, controllers, the government over you, the elite enforcers.

    Here is the irony: the guy demanding freedom of speech and right to protest, may also be a Communist radical or the Communist seed, a Socialist.

    Communism fails the people, because there is no citizen voice.
    Socialism with politeness, ignores your citizen complaint.

    Socialism will do your thinking for you and will know better than you what is good for you. Don't expect to get the best medical care when the bill gets too big. There's a reason people in Socialist countries have really bad teeth. You'd think no one told them braces have been invented. And in actual Socialist countries you can only get what the government can afford to give you, evidently not medicine or big time surgeries so much.

    Venezuela has huge demonstrations, tens of thousands because Socialism there isn't working. They are oil and gas rich. What's going on? Even so, the government can't afford to pay out that kind of money.

    Free democracy works for individuals best -- and better than the rest.
     
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    You've been reading Ayn Rand while drinking to much communion wine again. What were you rereading this time? "Anthem"?
    How is it even sarcasm goes over your head child?

    So okay I'll try again. Let's talk about this so called democracy you keep raving about. But this time I'm going to save my brain cells the strain and let people that write much clearer than I do talk about this 'great free nation', this 'great benefactor and savior to the world'.
    First essay this:
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-american-sea-of-deception/

    The American Sea of Deception

    Presidential lies are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to a political, media, intellectual and educational culture that has long been drenched in propagandistic lies.
    truthdig.com

    Next because I know you won't link to it, this:
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/world-will-not-mourn-decline-u-s-hegemony/

    The World Will Not Mourn the Decline of U.S. Hegemony

    Uncle Sam’s weakening is just fine with most Earth residents who pay attention to global events.
    truthdig.com

    And no this isn't the last, this:
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/t...ericans-in-understanding-our-dangerous-world/

    The Chomsky Challenge for Americans

    Monstrous U.S. war crimes since the early 1950s have gone down George Orwell's "memory hole." Now, we have no concept of empathy—or reality.
    truthdig.com

    Lastly there is this rather long piece on the corporate media and to my mind a very condensed version of a book I know you'll never read, "Manufacturing Consent":
    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-nature-and-mission-of-u-s-corporate-mass-media/
    ZCommunications » The Nature and Mission of U.S. Corporate Mass Media
    zcomm.org


    Now Willa, if you want to try to make a reasonable case for American foreign policy, it's domestic economics and internal politics fine but I will no longer entertain the one-tone-drone hall mark of every post you've made while you say nothing at all. Either discuss the issues or keep shadows on the wall as your reality.

    "Allegory of The Cave"
     
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    Here's why I don't give credence to some reports, because I just read on your link ogoun where it cost the taxpayers 1 mil for D.Trump to play golf since he's been in office. So I compared that to Trump NOT taking any pay check which he donates for instance to the opiod crisis and the National Park service, etc. Compare his salary at $78,333.00 times the 21 months he's been in office which equals to $164 million. So he is actually paying his own way where ever he goes.

    Trump is not having any affairs while in office which we can't say about other Presidents. To me that is Melania's business. As long as he is doing business for the people by lowering taxes. He's talking about doing it again. The economy has taken off up ward. Black unemployment is a record low. Unemployment across the board is at a 17 year low and 2.5 million new jobs are created. And with Mueller investigation for over a year, still have not found Trump involved with collusion. Feinstein says there is no Trump collusion, Pelosi and Warren say the same.

    So dear ogoun, "Hegemony?" I am not going to go for any kind of Communism. The purpose of it is to overthrow democracies by any "means necessary" which includes lying to "veil" the truth while speaking or writing. If you have read the Manifesto you would know that.

    :nails: We have more freedom than a skimpy political choice of governing hand cuffs and -- Wynona Earp! With Peacemaker a spell binding gun! :flamethrower: :flaming: Netflix. I have to put my fingers in my ears and look the other way sometimes because of content. Every year TV gets worse. Not for youth.
     
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    Umm, no. The POTUS salary is $400,000 a year and a $50,000 expense account. So unless I've forgot my elementary math for his 21 months in office his donation comes to (head scratch) $787,500. From there I'll leave it for the bean counters to figure out how much of this and that add up to this and why it costs the tax payer that.
    So he 'donates' this money to the opiod crisis does he. Wonderful, just wonderful. Would that be to the crisis that wasn't a crisis until white people started dying? That one?
    And the rest goes to the National Park Service does it? Beautiful just beautiful. But if he and those of his ilk had been paying their taxes to begin with then perhaps it wouldn't need donations.

    Communism? Where did that come from? I can assure you that all the FACTS they write about are well documented as FACT.
    And over throwing democracy? What are you on about? Want me to start listing all the democratically elected governments the US has overthrown and for the very undemocratic reasons it was done? Get it through your head girl, just because a writer or person is critical of the USA does not make them a communist or a bad American so read the articles.
     
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    You are so right I had my salary on POTUS wrong, probably from some fascist mis-information post. When you're right I'll be the first to say you're right. So thank you. You are right! ogoun is right!:cheerleader: The Pres. salary is $400,000 a year. Yay!! :cheers:

    Man! That was such a fun celebration. :10900:

    Now regarding the rest of what you wrote. Naw. Everything you say is Communist speak. But since you say you are a good American tell us your solution to fix all the things you hate in this country as it stands now. :popcorn1:
     
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    Sounds like the same drone to me.

    So where was this communist speak? That the opiod crisis was around long before white people started dying?
    Or was it the suggestion that mister big money man trump and his ilk should have been paying their fair share in taxes like good Americans instead chiseling every dime they could away from the public coffers?
    Or was it the suggestion that you actually read something?
    Which was it?
     
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