Black Spirituality Religion : Amen - Amun - Amen/Ra

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  1. Fine1952

    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    --The etymology points back to its original birthplace -- Ethiopia which came before Egypt. Hmm. that means Christianity has no 'legitimate' claim on this word though it is morphed all over the biblical text as though it came with the content naturally.:em4200:

    The Origin of the Word Amen: Ancient Knowledge the Bible Has Never Told by scholar, Salim Faraji

    "The word (amen) pre-dates ancient Egypt," says history professor, Jahi Issa. "It means the unseen principles of God."
    http://www.kentucky.com/158/story/246204. html

    Dr Anthony Browder further confirms that the word was richly entrenched in the Egyptian way of thought, acton and life.

    --Before there was Hebrew, Greek, Latin or Christianity for that matter there was Afrika. Our ancestors personified a GOD figure and prayed to a GOD head long before Hebrew, Greek or Christiany were on the religious map.

    Know that when you say the word you are invoking the Egyptian Sun-Deity Amen-Ra at the end of your prayers and/or declarational, confirmational or convictional statements! And also, know that the source is even older than that!:bye:

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    Scholar traces origins of 'Amen'
    He says word is of African, not Hebrew, origin
    By Robert Kelly-Goss
    COX NEWS SERVICE
    ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. --
    "Thank you, God. Amen."
    http://www.kentucky.com/158/story/246204.html

    That phrase, and the last word more specifically, is very familiar to millions of English-speaking Christians, Jews and Muslims worldwide. Prayers of these three major monotheistic religions are typically closed with the word, "amen."

    For many the word amen means, "so be it," or "it is so." In the Western world of religion the credit for the word is given to the Hebrew texts of the Old Testament, or Jewish Torah. Christians adopted the word, as well as the Muslims.

    But the origin of the word is under contention. It does not, says one Elizabeth City State University professor, trace its roots back to the Hebrew people; rather, the word can be traced to pre-dynastic Egypt, in the region of Africa known as the Sudan, to be more specific.

    "The word (amen) pre-dates ancient Egypt," says history professor, Jahi Issa. "It means the unseen principles of God."

    Issa is co-author with another scholar, Salim Faraji, of the book The Origin of the Word Amen: Ancient Knowledge the Bible Has Never Told, and it suggests far more than a simple origin of one of the most uttered words in the world.

    Issa started the journey toward his discovery when he began making trips to Africa, 26 in all so far. He would travel back and forth between Ghana and Egypt.

    Through his travels and studies, Issa says, he began to notice similarities between ancient Egyptian culture and contemporary Ghana. That observation led him to academic books on divine kingship and ancient cultures, including one from an Oxford University professor who pointed him to the Akan people of Ghana and a 1999 article in The New York Times.

    The article, Issa says, reported on the DNA connection between the Lemda people of southern Africa and the early Hebrew people. Through that article and other academic research, Issa came up with several realizations.

    One was that the origins of early biblical figures such as the Hebrews were most likely African, not Palestinian Arabs. Two, the word amen is derived from a pre-dynastic Egyptian culture found in the Sudan.

    In essence, Issa is making the claim that there was an ancient kingship similar to Egypt that gave birth to the dynastic pharaohs of the Nile region who happen to be from the Sudan. Those people not only influenced the Egyptian dynasties, but they also migrated northwest to what is now Ghana and their culture can be seen in West Africa to this day.

    But what does that have to do with the word amen? Well, Issa suggests that the word amen has its roots in the ancient name for the pharaoh, Amen, or in some cases spelled Amun.

    In his book he points out that the word amen can be found in much of ancient Africa's culture and that it predates the Hebrew people. OK, but what does the book and its claims mean to contemporary society?

    "The significance of the book is that historically when it comes to religion, because of Europe's 500-year dominance of the world, people have been misled to think the people of the Bible were European, and they were not. They were people of color," says Issa.

    In other words, if the origin of the word amen is ancient Sudanese and that means that the world's three major monotheistic religions owe its beginnings to that region, not what we know as the Middle East, it would also suggest that, as Issa puts it, "Jesus was a black man with kinky hair."

    For many contemporary scholars, the idea that Jesus was likely akin to contemporary Palestinian people is not far-fetched. But few have gone so far as to maintain that Jesus had the same physical traits as a man from, say, Ghana.

    Issa, along with other scholars, is firm in his belief and is certain that even the origins of humankind, according to the Bible, can be found in Africa. Eden, Issa says, is in Ethiopia, and the Book of Genesis says as much.

    For Issa, it's a significant step toward bringing people together to convince them that, yes, the world owes much of its cultural and religious origins to Africa.

    He hopes one day all churches will depict Jesus as a black man and, similarly, he hopes that acceptance will work toward bringing people together, and not asunder, because of the color of one's skin.

    Issa is certain that there are many scholars and people in the general public that would give him an "amen" on that point.
     
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    Fine1952,

    Good work! Fine, very good! Just in case research is done on the Lemda people, the author misspelled it, it should be spelled Lemba(we all make mistakes). Recently, a documentary indicated these black Jews (the Lemba people)were the last to have the ark of the covenant. This information you have provided, certainly works well with what we have been saying all along, especially Music Producer.

    Don’t forget this:

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=519116&postcount=72

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    You might want to point out that faux pas to the author...!

    Actually any alteration (e.g. change) by me to a literary piece deems the transfer of that information "a non-valid quotation".
    :teach:

    However, what the 2 authors [e.g. Salim Faraji & Jahi Issa] "point out" that I duly note is what has already been confirmed by the expert on such topics -- Dr. Darkwah in his book "The Africans Who Wrote The Bible" in March 15, 2000 ~& that is, that these two Great Nations have a similar relationship that reaches beyond coincidence. :lift:
     
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    Fine1952,

    Peace, Sister!
     
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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    I am surprised that...

    you did not correct my mis-spelling of the word "alteration"as the expert proof reader here at Destee.com:coffee:
     
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    Fine1952,

    Certainly, I noticed! It's just that I try and steer clear of altercations. Besides, if anyone wanted to research the Lemba people, I was just being helpful, not a slight towards you, Fine1952. Actually, I admire your tenacity in search of truth.
     
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    I cut and paste authors' errors...

    all the time. :donttell:

    One of my favorite authors, Dr. Muata A. Ashby acknowledges that grammatical errors were made as our ancients passed down wisdom throughout their eras, however these human faults never changed the quality of the Egyptian School of Thought--therein..!:em3400:



     
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    Fine1952,

    I promise not to tell anyone your secret! Ashby is correct and a fine choice to have for a favorite author.
     
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    Awwa Thanks!

    As an astute student in The Egyptian School of Knowledge:qqb007:

    I continue to grow.....:em2200:
     
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    Hotep fine
    Amen equates to the hidden intelligence behind all existence perceivable by us or not. Our ancestors designated this term to describe the undescrible. Amen ra is the hidden intelligence with the reflection of the source ra or the sun good research fine. Either opians are considered by some to be the true start of cosmonology with egypt adding there own per version. Continue your search your getting there. Hotep
     
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