Haiti : After 2 Years Haitians, Defrauded of the Billions in Earthquake relief Aid

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There are three Americas. North, Central, and South. Which one?
when AB first mentioned 'americans', north immediately popped into my head. It thought is was quite obvious. But apparently I was wrong. I thought when people even mention 'americans' they are rarely speaking on central or south. If they are, usually they'll put central or south in front of 'americans' to distinguish that fact.

There are 3 americas, as you so correctly stated. But I think when one says "american", we all know who they are speaking of. Maybe you have some insight on this that I don't. If you have a different perspective on this let me know.
 

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when AB first mentioned 'americans', north immediately popped into my head. It thought is was quite obvious. But apparently I was wrong. I thought when people even mention 'americans' they are rarely speaking on central or south. If they are, usually they'll put central or south in front of 'americans' to distinguish that fact.

There are 3 americas, as you so correctly stated. But I think when one says "american", we all know who they are speaking of. Maybe you have some insight on this that I don't. If you have a different perspective on this let me know.
It's a White boy game that should not be entertained.

For the most part, it's a false division that makes three separate Americas seeing how the only (geographical) America are the two continents combined; nevertheless, in the English language "America" is a synecdoche for the U.S. [meaning its the utmost ignorance to quibble over it]. And context clues were sufficient seeing how the only other "American" would be the racial group of quasi-indigenous Asians; who would then be called "Native Americans." So truly Shikamaru bit off more than he could chew and he bit it off for objectionable reasons--just to be contentious and distracting [Like a European would.]

Some of our people take up the mannerisms of Europeans where they are 'picky' and 'quasi-political' but truly only 'distracting.'

Why should a conversation on the abuses suffered by our siblings in Haiti fall into a discussion on the different "Americas" and the supremacy of the American English language which--according to its dictionary--allows "American" to mean what I meant.

Shikamaru needs to focus his politics; and not take up meaningless battles against the English language: especially when that battle has nothing to do with our liberation as a people.
 

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This is part of the Long term plan of the Illuminati of ushering in the New World Order (NWO).
I'm a TI (targeted individual) research this and connect the dots share the truth with all of us
 

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It's a White boy game that should not be entertained.

For the most part, it's a false division that makes three separate Americas seeing how the only (geographical) America are the two continents combined; nevertheless, in the English language "America" is a synecdoche for the U.S. [meaning its the utmost ignorance to quibble over it]. And context clues were sufficient seeing how the only other "American" would be the racial group of quasi-indigenous Asians; who would then be called "Native Americans." So truly Shikamaru bit off more than he could chew and he bit it off for objectionable reasons--just to be contentious and distracting [Like a European would.]

Some of our people take up the mannerisms of Europeans where they are 'picky' and 'quasi-political' but truly only 'distracting.'

Why should a conversation on the abuses suffered by our siblings in Haiti fall into a discussion on the different "Americas" and the supremacy of the American English language which--according to its dictionary--allows "American" to mean what I meant.

Shikamaru needs to focus his politics; and not take up meaningless battles against the English language: especially when that battle has nothing to do with our liberation as a people.
We all know how the USA was made The Europeans came to this land and Killed the Indians(ofcourse not all) and they Abducted-Kidnapped-Stole/Robbed people from Africa brought us here and murdered-made into slaves-raped our women and it still is happening in other countries under the lie of "we are here to help you/for peace"
God bless us all
 

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AMY GOODMAN: For more on the second anniversary of the earthquake in Haiti, we’re joined by Randall Robinson, law professor at Pennsylvania State University, author of a number of books, including An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President. Randall Robinson is the founder and past president of TransAfrica. He joins us discuss his most recent book, as well, his second novel. It’s called Makeda. Set at the dawn of the civil rights era, it follows a young man coming of age in segregated Richmond, Virginia. Through his blind grandmother and her visions, he discovers his roots in Africa.
Randall Robinson, welcome to Democracy Now!
RANDALL ROBINSON: Thank you. Very nice to be here.
AMY GOODMAN: It’s great to have you back with us. Let’s talk first, briefly, about Haiti and what it faces on this second anniversary. I was with you on the journey back from the Central African Republic, when you and Congress Member Maxine Waters and others took a small plane to the Central African Republic to try to retrieve President Aristide after the coup of 2004. It is, what, seven years later. A horrific earthquake kills more than 300,000 Haitians, and we hear about the billions that perhaps never made it to the people of Haiti to relieve their suffering.
RANDALL ROBINSON: Well, we can’t trust what we’re being told by official Washington. We have every reason not to. We were on that plane to the Central African Republic to rescue the Aristides, because the president and his wife had been abducted by American Army people, personnel, and taken there against their will. That was never reported. The New York Times reported that he fled to South Africa, as if that never happened. And so, you were on the plane, and you knew what happened, but it was not reported in the United States. When we look at the WikiLeaks cables, it’s stunning evidence of the collaboration between the United States and the U.N. to first slander President Aristide, to collaborate with the Haitian police in contaminating the new police force by infusing it with hundreds of paramilitaries who had preyed upon the Haitian people belief—just terrible things that the U.S. was doing behind the scenes, and presumably continues to do. And so, I’m not surprised that the reconstruction efforts are not going well, because I don’t think the United States, officially, ever wanted anything to go well in Haiti, and more recently, of course, tried vigorously to obstruct President Aristide’s return to his country, which is a violation of international human rights law.
AMY GOODMAN: By the way, speaking of his return, in March of last year, we covered ousted Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide when he ultimately did return to Haiti from South Africa, seven-and-a-half years after he had been ousted in 2004. When he landed in Port-au-Prince, he was greeted by thousands of supporters. He addressed the crowd in a number of languages. When he spoke English, he said, "Exclusion is the problem, inclusion is the solution," indirectly referencing his party, Fanmi Lavalas, which was excluded from the latest presidential election. But when he addressed the Haitians in Creole, in their language, he was much more explicit.

JEAN-BERTRAND ARISTIDE: [translated] You are right. If we don’t salvage our dignity, our dignity will be gone. Yes, you are right, because the problem is exclusion, and the solution is inclusion. The exclusion of Fanmi Lavalas is the exclusion of the majority. The exclusion of the majority means that you are cutting off exactly the branch that we are all sitting on. The problem is exclusion. The solution is inclusion of all Haitians, without discrimination, because everybody is a person.
AMY GOODMAN: That was President Aristide upon landing on Haitian soil with his wife and two girls, his children, after seven-and-a-half years in exile, talking about how the majority party of Haiti had been excluded from the presidential election.
RANDALL ROBINSON: Well, one has to wonder how the United States, including of course President Obama, can embrace an election that excludes the largest party in the country and then to call it democracy. It is not democracy. And no democracy should be supporting that kind of exclusion. It’s unthinkable that the U.S. would embrace and endorse and validate something as terrible an outcome and as unfair an outcome as that one has been.
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/1/13/2_years_after_devastating_earthquake_haitis
 

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It's a White boy game that should not be entertained.
Then why did you buy into the "White boy's" game by calling a subset of people Americans while excluding the rest?

I think you buy into the "White boy's" game more than you realize :).

This is called projection. In actuality, you are the consumer of the "White boy's" game patently evident in your "you Americans" comment.

ABSiblings said:
For the most part, it's a false division that makes three separate Americas seeing how the only (geographical) America are the two continents combined; nevertheless, in the English language "America" is a synecdoche for the U.S. [meaning its the utmost ignorance to quibble over it]. And context clues were sufficient seeing how the only other "American" would be the racial group of quasi-indigenous Asians; who would then be called "Native Americans." So truly Shikamaru bit off more than he could chew and he bit it off for objectionable reasons--just to be contentious and distracting [Like a European would.]
I understand you are upset and frustrated. Exposure can be disconcerting.

Again, patently evident in your posts and ad hominem attacks.

At least with this portion, you've begun to attack my position and not the speaker.

ABSiblings said:
Some of our people take up the mannerisms of Europeans where they are 'picky' and 'quasi-political' but truly only 'distracting.'
And you bought into the Europeans belief that Americans means only US citizens.
Is this not the pot calling the kettle black?

ABSiblings said:
Why should a conversation on the abuses suffered by our siblings in Haiti fall into a discussion on the different "Americas" and the supremacy of the American English language which--according to its dictionary--allows "American" to mean what I meant.
This began of a simple question which you did not answer.
You didn't answer because you recognized your bias.

ABSiblings said:
Shikamaru needs to focus his politics; and not take up meaningless battles against the English language: especially when that battle has nothing to do with our liberation as a people.
I have a counter-offer.

North, South, or Central America ... which one are you referring to?

You can rest assured my politics are deeper and broader than you can fathom.
Perhaps it is too much for you which is why you suggest a focusing rather than being able to do either focusing or broadening at will.

If this is a "meaningless battle" as you put it, I suggest disengaging. No use chewing up your resources, right?
 

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You can rest assured my politics are deeper and broader than you can fathom.
You have no politics if you can not focus on the issue at hand. Then you're just a coffee shop Philosopher.
 

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You have no politics if you can not focus on the issue at hand.
That's your opinion.

Its nice to know you have one and that you are willing to share it. Thanks for sharing :).

ABSiblings said:
Then you're just a coffee shop Philosopher.
I'm more of a tea house philosopher given my preference for green tea with honey.

Tisk, tisk .... yet another ad hominem.

Attack my position, not me :).

So far, the majority of your posts have been composed of the latter.

I thought you were done?

ABSiblings said:
I'm done.

If I want to talk with a White person, I'll talk with a White person.

'Care.
When one says one thing and does another, that is hypocrisy.
A practitioner of hypocrisy is a hypocrite.
 

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Now would be a good time for a prayer for Haiti. As Hurricane Matthew gets ready to roll over them. If it stays at current strength will be lots of mud slides and flooding some places could get up to 30 inches of rain and with little vegetation to hold things in place along with the number of people still living in tents since the earthquake.
 
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