Black People : African DNA testing a fraud?? Ericka Badu (Bamileke)

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  1. Shems Nbedjer

    Shems Nbedjer Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    With so many supposed "frauds" put on people, I can dig the potential of this supposed fraud... that is unless it benefits the "ENEMY" is some major way.

    That darn beast will always find a way to benefit from it though, so until we become better at "Chess" than it is, we often have to get what we can get and turn those lemons into lemonade.

    Fat Belly Bella always giving out some good "meat"!

    If Badu and Yasiin Bey use this as a basis for a "trend setter", without sponsoring the "DNA Tracing" for profit but instead start a foundation to set up "FREE" centers for "Melinated" people, then right on.

    Any motivation to get young and older kindred in the mindset of considering a trip to the continent of "Africa" would be considered an invaluable trade-off, imo.


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    I won't say its a fraud but, 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great-great grandparents, 32 great-great-grandparents.

    How does a test then reduce all this to ONE "tribe"?
     
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    Peace Uncle,

    How you been?

    Thanks for bringing up this question even though I am sure that they went through Ms. Badu's direct mtDNA line to reach this conclusion. I would say that I would personally cross verify with a roots reading for a probable traditional African perspective.
     
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    Peace, bro. Blackbird.

    I'm good.

    You actually confirm my point. Mtdna only traces the maternal ancestry. That's only one side of one's lineage.

    As far as the Bamileke are concerned there is no single group and one supposedly traces back to Ancient Egypt.
     
  6. Shems Nbedjer

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    Bro Blackbird and Dr. Omowale Jabali thanks for chiming in.

    I have been working on my roots tree for years. I traced both sides back to Virginia...and now I'm at a dead end because I havent had time to explore things in Virginia. My mother's father side comes from Shreveport, Louisiana. I found like 3-4 generations of the family in different Caddo censuses but to this day we are disconnected from this side of the family currently living in Shreveport.

    So my other choices are to:
    Submit a African DNA from the oldest living women in my family
    Get a roots reading from a legitimate ATR elder
    Select a country in Africa and designate it as my home country

    By the way I'm not totally consumed with this journey but my internal destiny burns with this quest.
     
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    I totally agree it would be cool if someone with resources could set up legitimate dna testing. I'm kinda of leery of DNA testing because maybe they are using it decode the black race for possible diabolical reasons.

    I think professor skip gates was promoting DNA testing but I don't think many people trust him.
     
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    If you really want to get "deep" with it, ask this question within your "sacred space of consciousness"...

    How do they match one person's DNA to the DNA of a people in another location.... unless they also have DNA to match it from all the peoples in all the areas in the lands of the earth? (insert Red Cross)

    Simply put, how the heck did they get DNA from Cameroon or Sierra Leone?


    Have people been saving some sort of DNA database since some of our ancestors came over here, or have they been getting this from "Africa"?

    Not quite sure how this "DNA Tracing" science works, but just thinking of it in a general way it seems to expose more questions than answers.

    So, your leeriness is understood and probably warranted.


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    I am currently working with a few people back at home in Shreveport on a couple of major projects. One of the things we will be addressing in one of the projects is genealogy. We are still in the planning phases, laying the ground work and logistics, but you can expect the flight phase to occur in late 2015.

    I think you told me once but what is the name of your family from the Shreveport area? Do you know what neighborhood or part of town they are from?

    Shreveport has about 17 Black neighborhoods and about 8 of them are historical Black neighborhoods. Some families are usually associated with a particular area of town. So if someone knows the neighborhood where a family lives, you can sometimes find the family because someone may know that family or at least members of the family. I am from Queensborough - which is one of the central neighborhoods west of downtown and north of I-20.

    Do you know if they live in or are from Queensborough, Mooretown, Allendale, Lakeside, Cedar Grove, Stoner Hill, the Bottom, the Cooper Road, Hollywood, Caddo Heights, Morningside or some where else?
     
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