Black Spirituality Religion : ADAM AND EVE. Please be honest and answer this.

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  1. DA BROTHER LOVE

    DA BROTHER LOVE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "God" is a perfect and honest "God", right?

    He is a "God" without sin, right?

    Since "God" is without sin, then he is unable to tell a lie, right?

    I mean if he was to ever tell us a lie, that would make him a sinner, right?

    Ok riddle me this. Lets go back to the story of Adam and Eve. Adam is told by God not to eat from the tree of "knowledge of good and evil". Lets look at this concept:


    "Knowledge of good and evil"

    Since when does it become a sin to have knowledge of yourself? We are sinners whether we know it or not, no? So why would it bother "God" for us to know about ourselves?

    Why is that considered a sin in "God"s eyes?

    To withold the truth from someone would be to decieve a person, no?

    Decieving a person is just the same as lying to a person, no?

    So if you know the truth about someone, and you deliberately keep it away from them, is that not withholding the truth? Is that not deception?


    The Bible tells you itself, REPEATEDLY that Satan is a liar, and that he would even disguise himself as the light in order to decieve Gods people.

    The edited Bible= who's version of the Bible? Hmmmmmmmmm. :pimp

    The sooner you find the answer to this riddle, the closer you so-called Christians are to discovering who is the God that you truly serve.
     
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    cursed heart Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hi and welcome!
     
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    Peace, Bra. Welcome

    I would personally choose to hold fast my judgment of that which is that much higher than me.
    If I was told directly to hold tight and not to be tempted, then I'd humbly comply. There are plenty of places that you can venture that Angels themselves wouldn't go.
    All in due time, IF in due time.

    We can't go off of half truths of what someone else gave us and then pass judgment based on those words and those words alone. That's a trap in itself.
    It's like answering "how long have you been gay?" There's not enough info to articulate an adequate response. So the wise man chooses not to answer the question. But rather to ask/search for more information.

    In light of the above suboptimal analogy :x: , another that can be drawn from Star Wars is when Anakin is seduced by the dark side. Sidious told him that he should know the force in its entirety, and that the Jedi’s were keeping truths from him. Anakin fell victim and was too weak to resist. That was his downfall.
    He didn't want to take his time and go through the proper rights of initiation. Again, "Fools rush in where Angels dare not tread."
     
  4. Music Producer

    Music Producer Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Da Brother Love:

    Hi Brother and welcome:

    Your concept of GOD (The GOD manifested in the Old Testament or Holy Scriptures) is kinda limited because you try to view HIM or IT through the eyes of mainstream perception. It took me about 2 years to truly exorcise the western philosophy because it is everywhere you look and our own people are trapped into teach the philosophy of the slave master.

    In my personal understanding of GOD and through my study of several religions GOD would be Pure Energy that performs what is necessary to maintain a whole. In order to sustain that existence the Energy would have to be Supreme and One. Answer your questions through this perfect understanding:
    Depends on the condition of the system.

    Depends on the condition of the system.

    You perceive GOD wrong to ask that question. Look at it like this…..Everything GOD Speaks with HIS own Breath, in HIS own Specific Words becomes a Truth and Reality. Speaking is how GOD creates the future thus GOD is incapable of telling a lie directly to a human being.

    The sin was not what the tree revealed, the sin was disobeying the Voice of GOD.

    Not if there is no other way to explain that Truth to the human mind. Even when the Old Testament reveal to us in plain wording and outright information such as this.

    KJV:
    Gen:6:4: There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    English Bible:
    There were Nefilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men of old, men of renown.

    The word “Nefilim” means “Fallen” which clearly informs us that it was entities referred to as Sons of GOD that became the Fallen. Yet we continue to have people in the earth that serve, worship, praise and uplift a confessed Son of GOD because they are confused or simply reject GOD for the Son, just as Adam rejected GOD for Eve, just as Eve rejected GOD for Temptation.

    So it don’t matter how GOD reveals HIS Truth, you will always have people to reject it in order to justify their service to the demigods, Sons of GOD; even Lucifer and or a derivatives of GOD.

    This is GOD’s Glorious plan to separate humans between those that would rebel and corrupt HIM and those that will not, those that will obey.
     
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    In the words of the illustrious Dr. Welsing

    the Adam and Eve myth is centered around a little white lie told by the Hellenized Jews to the nefarious Greeks: Complete-shame-of-their-leprous- white-bodies :pool:

    Adam and Eve is an allegoric tale for the white man and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the African God Consciousness of Knowledge of Self!
     
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    That's a very good question, Brother.

    I would go even further and ask how it is possible to sin if you don't know good from evil? If you have no concept of death how do you know it is something to be avoided?

    If a parent puts a baby on a window ledge and puts the baby's bottle on the ground below and tells the baby don't jump or you will die, what would we say of such a parent?

    I don't question God. I question any book that claims to be from God and yet does not rise above the moral and intellectual standards of the basest of men.
     
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    cursed heart Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I read this information on another site before.
     
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    The Historical aspect of Adam and Eve possibly deals with Akhenaten being vanquished from Akhetaten. The word “Adam” means “Red” which is quite possibly a reference to the bloodline of Red Crown of Egypt.

    There is evidence that Akhenaten did not die in Akhetaten but was forced out by attempts on his life and hostilities between him and his wife Nefertiti because of a woman referred to as Kiya. Akhenaten and Kiya is suspect to have been vanquished to an area known as Avaris and there he changed his name. Nefertiti had the Sphinx (Gen:3:24) built to block Akhenaten’s reentry into Akhetaten. Akhenaten was vanquished mainly because of him trying to remove the names of the gods from the Tree of Life which was extreme blasphemy from the point of the Amunist.

    Another perception is Akhenaten and Nefertiti was vanquished and Akhenaten faked his death and so did Nefertiti but she stayed in Akhetaten (Eden) to reign as Smenkhkare for as long as she could, which was about two and a half years before the Amunist and their solders forced the evacuation of the city.

    This information comes from Secrets of the Exodus ISBN 1-58115-319-8 and Eden in Egypt ISBN 1-931882-40-1.

    Now, this does not mean all is true and accurate because many people have their opinions but the historical events of Akhetaten and Akhenaten are the closest one could come in matching a historical event that the story of Adam and Eve could be allegoric of. As a matter of fact the entire Old Testament is dealing with the records of the Amenhotep bloodline which is the bloodline that reestablished the monotheistic perceptions of Atum, it just came to a head with Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV).
     
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    Cursed Heart

    That's nice! ;)

    My infro comes from Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing's book "The Isis Papers"!!!
     
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    ADAM and EVE are not the so-called Original People or African*

    Hotep

    When the day comes for most of us who do not know that every thing with out exception that is given to "Us" by the european and indoeuripean "Religious" systems of abject sanctified racist fabrications of false white images of divine and worse yet false doctirins that have no base in reality but only illusions to control the minds of the masses in a spiritual "Death" of ignorance...then we will be free, liberated and wise enough to stay totaly clear of the snares that has us hoodwinked and bamboozled today while being "Lost" in "Biblical-Myths".
    ADAM and EVE are myths created by europeans to give them selves a dignified root at the top of civilization. This lie has no proof or a schread of a connection in reality but only in the tradition of all the other so-called white prophets, saints, white heros such as superman, batman, spiderman, tarzan, James #007 Bond, the Pope, King James and of course all the other great white hopes like Ragen, Jhon Wayn, Elvis, Bush and his daddy.
    As long as we continue to rack our brains trying to make scence out of all of the our-right foolishness that we and our slave parents and great, great grand parents was given by the slave masters and their children...we will never know any thing about our "Selves"...African!!!Stop looking for something out of nothing and start to look inside your "Black" self..."Know Your Self" and then you will know G-d.
    According to the myth of ADAM and EVE who were as we have been tought are both "White"!!!...the "Earth" is only 4,500 years from creation??!! Then how do you explain the temples, spinx and pyrimids being already very, very, very "Ancient" by the time white ADAM and whte EVE showed up!!??? There are "Initiation" stories tought to the initiates that have been passed down through time to "us" today that are at least 50 and 60 thousand years (old) ancient that speaks of nothing concerning the so-called first great white "father and mother" to the "African"!?! We already know today that this "Crazy" story is insane and will make the person or persons who believe it also more "Insane" and "Crazy" because it never happen and the owners of the lie know that they are "Lie-ing" to "You"...Wake-Up!........."People Know Thy Self"

    Ase`
     
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