Black Spirituality Religion : according to the Bible, God has a form..


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Mar 6, 2006
Music Producer said:
The problem with making peace between the main religions is people don’t follow the advice of their own religion. Every Muslim on earth would agree that the GOD found in the Old Testament is Allah. Every Servant of Jesus would agree that the Father of Jesus is the GOD found in the Old Testament. The Koran advises one to follow Allah, the New Testament advises one to follow the Father, and so what’s the problem?

The problem is ego, plain and simple. If I acknowledge that what you believe is legitimate it forces me to protect my own ideals so as to not give too much power to yours.

The people that hold up the Koran but yet reject the GOD of the Old Testament are evil people. The people that hold up the New Testament but yet reject the GOD of the Old Testament are evil people.

I wouldn't go as far as calling people evil, but I do agree there is misunderstanding/confusion there.

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May 31, 2004
I would call them evil but redeemable. Someone has to be held accountable for the war, death and suffering found in the earth, thus I will call them evil and committers of the First Sin, rejection of GOD.

Stop being nice, it is the only way they will see; you have to outright inform them of what they do and yes it makes them angry, mad, frustrated, boisterous and not like you but who has ever liked anyone that speaks a Truth.


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Feb 3, 2001
New York
solomon7 said:
But, since you bring it up, please, read the essay, "Can Allah Be Seen?"
I read the essay...I have several comments. Mr. TrueIslam states that "there are a few verses is the Qur’an which modern exegesis presents as the strongest proof of the non-anthropomorphic, transcendental nature of Allah. Upon closer examination, however, these verses prove not to be anti-anthropomorphic at all. Most of them, when understood in their original context, could just as easily be cited as evidence of an anthropomorphic God..."

In religion and mythology, "anthropomorphism" refers to the attribution of a human body or of human qualities generally, to a divine being or beings. Many mythologies are almost entirely concerned with anthropomorphic deities who express human characteristics such as jealousy, hatred, or love. The Greek gods, such as Zeus and Apollo were often depicted in human form exhibiting both commendable and despicable human traits.

"...The first is found in Sura 2:3 where Allah is referred to as Ak-Ghayb..." The correct spelling of the word is "al-ghaib" or "al-ghayb" (not "Ak-Ghayb"). Here is Sura 2:3-5:

"This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous, who believe in the unseen and observe prayer and spend out of what We have provided for them; and who believe in that which has been revealed to thee, and that which was revealed before thee, and they have firm faith in the Hereafter." (Sura Al-Baqarah 3:1-5)

Al-ghaib means anything hidden or invisible; anything unseen, absent or far away. God, the angels and the Last Day are all al-ghaib. Moreover, the word, as used in the Qur'an, does not mean imaginary and unreal things, but real and verified things, though unseen. It is, therefore, wrong to suppose that Isoam forces upon its followers some mysteries of faith and invites them to believe in them blindly. The word al-ghaib signifies things which, though beyond the comprehension of human senses, can nevertheless be proved by reason or experience. The super-sensible need not necessarily be irrational. Nothing of "the unseen" in which a Muslim is called upon to believe is outside the scope of reason. There are many things in the world which, though unseen, are yet proved to exist by invincible arguments, and nobody can deny their existence.

Mr. TrueIslam states: "The second standard 'anti-anthropomorphic' verse cited by modern Muslim exegetes is 6:104, which reads: 'la tudrikuha al-absar,' 'Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends all vision.' Though this verse is usually cited as proof that God cannot be seen with the eyes, the actual Arabic word proves otherwise."

Here is Al-An'am, ayat 102-104:

"The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. How can He have a son when He has no consort, and when He has created everything and has knowledge of all things? Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no god but He, the Creator of all things; so worship Him. And He is guardian over everything. Eyes cannot reach Him, but He reaches the eyes. And He is Incomprehensible, the All-Aware."

This verse means that human reason alone, unaided by Divine revelation, is incapable of comprehending God. He cannot be seen with physical eyes, but reveals Himself to man through His Prophets or through the working of His attributes. He is also perceived by spiritual eyes...

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May 31, 2004
solomon7 said:
This is the name of the thread.

It can be proven.

You all seem to be on a "tangent".
Well, the problem is too philosophical. Such as:

If you could be any form you desired to be at any time, do you have a form?

According to the Bible GODs natural form would be a Cloud or a Mist.
According to GOD His form is what ever it takes to maintain a whole system or what ever HE desires at any time. GOD is not bound to one realm of physics.

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