Black People : Aboriginal Australians descend from the first humans to leave Africa, DNA sequence reveals

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  1. RAPTOR

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    Adapted from a news release issued by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC).

    Thursday 22 September 2011

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    An international team of researchers, including a UK collaboration led by BBSRC- and MRC-funded researchers at Imperial College London, with colleagues at University College London, and University of Cambridge has for the first time sequenced the genome of a man who was an Aboriginal Australian. They have shown that modern day Aboriginal Australians are the direct descendents of the first people who arrived on the continent some 50,000 years ago and that those ancestors left Africa earlier than their European and Asian counterparts. The work is published this evening (22 September 2011) in the journal Science.

    Although there is good archaeological evidence that shows humans in Australia around 50,000 years ago, this genome study re-writes the story of their journey there. The study provides good evidence that Aboriginal Australians are descendents of the earliest modern explorers, leaving Africa around 24,000 years before their Asian and European counterparts. This is contrary to the previous and most widely accepted theory that all modern humans derive from a single out-of-Africa migration wave into Europe, Asia, and Australia. Read more: http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_23-9-2011-10-41-8
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    .......Another mystery unfolds:

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    And Aborigines have naturally Blonde hair. More natural than any of these so called "natural" bleached out White chicks. Too bad these unique people have been slaughtered by European Australians. I guess they felt uncomfortable with dark people having Blonde hair.
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    Here again is the European with their linear thought processes in full effect. First of all, they can't make a scientific assumption in the manner that they did because they "found a man". Where's the woman he came from and how long was she there before he got there? Also, they somehow assume incorrectly that there was just "one creation" or "One Being" and that from that One came all else. Furthermore, there was no Asian or European 24,000 years ago so they lost me on that one.
     
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    The last line you wrote is wrong. Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurignacian

    The Aurignacian culture ([​IMG] /ɔrɪɡˈnʃən/ or /ɔrɪnˈjʃən/) is an archaeological culture of the Upper Palaeolithic, located inEurope and southwest Asia. It lasted broadly within the period from ca. 45,000 to 35,000 years ago in terms of conventional radiocarbon dating, or between ca. 47,000 and 41,000 years ago in terms of the most recent calibration of the radiocarbon timescale. [1] The name originates from the type site of Aurignac in the Haute-Garonne area of France.
    The oldest known example of figurative art, the Venus of Hohle Fels, comes from this culture. It was discovered in September 2008 in a cave at Schelklingen in Baden-Württemberg in southern Germany.
    The Aurignacian tool industry is characterized by worked bone or antler points with grooves cut in the bottom. Their flint tools include fine blades and bladelets struck from prepared cores rather than using crude flakes.[1] The people of this culture also produced some of the earliest known cave art, such as the animal engravings at Aldène and the paintings at Chauvet cave in southern France. They also made pendants, bracelets and ivory beads, and three-dimensional figurines. Bâtons de commandement are also found at their sites.
    This sophistication and self-awareness led archaeologists to consider the makers of Aurignacian artifacts the first modern humans in Europe. Human remains and Late Aurignacian artifacts found in juxtaposition support this inference. The most critical single discovery is that of the so called Egbert skeleton from Ksar Akil, embedded in deposits overlain by Levantine Aurignacian industries. This is a fully modern human in both cranial and postcranial terms, between 40,000 and 45,000 years old. Although finds of human skeletal remains in direct association with Early Aurignacian technologies are scarce in Europe, the few available are also probably modern human. The best dated association between Aurignacian industries and human remains are those of at least five individuals from the Mladec cave in the Czech Republic, dated by direct radiocarbon measurements on the skeletal remains themselves to at least 31,000–32,000 years old. At least three robust but typically anatomically modern individuals from the Pestera cu Oase cave inRomania, were dated directly on the bones to ca. 35,000–36,000 BP. Although not associated directly with archeological material, these finds are within the chronological and geographical range of the earlier Aurignacian in southeastern Europe.[1]
    Aurignacian figurines have been found depicting faunal representations of the time period associated with now-extinct mammals, including mammoths,rhinoceros, and the European horse, along with anthropomorphized depictions that could be inferred as some of the earliest evidence of religion.
    In June 2007, a 35,000 year old figurine of a mammoth was discovered in the Vogelherd cave.[2] Currently being studied by the University of Tübingen, the figurine embodies the intricate and complex artistic characteristics of Aurignacian culture.
    One of the most ancient Venus figurines was discovered in 2008 in Germany. The figurine has been dated to 35,000 years ago.[3][4]
    A flute (~22 cm long and 2.2 cm in diameter; from the hollow wing-bone of a giant vulture) along with fragments of ivory flutes found at the same Hohle Fels Cave in 2009 are the oldest undisputed musical instruments.[5]
     
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    Well why don't you tap on that link with the Venus Figurines. Does that look like any Europeans that you know of? Did you notice the pepper corn hair? I didn't say that there were no people up in Europe...I simply said and will say again, Europeans...aka...white people, did not exist and Asians didn't either.
     
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    By that time modern europeans and asians had already evolved and were spread across Europe and Asia respectively...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_early_modern_humans

    Anatomically modern humans first emerged in East Africa, some 100 000 to 200 000 years ago. An exodus from Africa over the Arabian Peninsula around 60 000 years ago brought modern humans to Eurasia, with one group rapidly settling coastal areas around the Indian Ocean and one group migrating north to steppes of Central Asia.[23] A mitochondrial DNAsequence of two Cro-Magnons from the Paglicci Cave, Italy, dated to 23 000 and 24 000 years old (Paglicci 52 and 12), identified the mtDNA as Haplogroup N, typical of the latter group.[24] The inland group is the founder of North and East Asians (the "Mongol" people), Caucasoids and large sections of the Middle East and North African population. Migration from the Black Sea area into Europe started some 45 000 years ago, probably along the Danubian corridor. By 20 000 years ago, the whole of Europe was settled.

    An overweight worn-out misshapen figurine with what could be braids does not represent anything and should not be used as evidence to find out what europeans looked like at that time.
     
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    This is so cool. But just b/c there's no "archaeological evidence" of people living in a specific area at a specific time, does not mean they did not exits there.
     
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    This is your earliest european ancestor

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    http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1683473/forensic_scientist_recreates_face_of_earliest_european/
     
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