Black People Politics : A test-question for the American black voter

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  1. Perfection

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    Soon, there will be a choice. The American black voter will head to the polls and will participate (as it were) in the selection of the 45th President of the United States. But why will some blacks choose Team Republican as opposed to Team Democrat? What are some of the real, solid arguments which American blacks advance in determining their lives will magically change once their horse is elected?

    But here's the central question:

    What incentive does either 2016 candidate have in ensuring that the condition of blacks are improved to the level of black independence and empowerment?
     
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    What we have is a radial venn diagram appropriately named "Tricks." This diagram shows the relationship between and among the various methods of persuasion which we have labeled here as the "American bag of tricks."

    Clockwise we have, the top orange is politics. Religion is next in the color brown. At your 6, you have reddish, the Media. Finally, at your 9, in light blue, you have the Criminal Justice System.

    Please review this while being mindful of the illusion of "voting."
     
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    Wouldn't the question also be...What have Blacks done for themselves to " ensuring that the condition of blacks are improved to the level of black independence and empowerment? "

    I'm voting Team democrat. Not because they say they will do this or that. i will not vote for a team that says they don't like me. Show they dont care about us, me coming into what i work for every day to build.
    my horse will run.. and my vote count or not will be cast.
     
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    Excellent question. In fact, it is your question:

    What have Blacks done for themselves to " ensuring that the condition of blacks are improved to the level of black independence and empowerment? "

    which will eventually be thematic as we examine the illusion of the American voting system and blacks. I chose not to begin with that question because history shows that you can't come rolling like a locomotive on issues others embrace, however illusory those issues are.

    I am, however, concerned about something else you wrote. You stated that you're:

    ...voting Team democrat. Not because they say they will do this or that. i will not vote for a team that says they don't like me.

    So it is your position that Team Republican doesn't like you, but Team Democrat does?
     
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    This is truly an awesome response. You offer us a lot to analyze and consider. I'm loving your point system. I especially like your "BlackLie-Radar."

    Speaking of lies and deception, why do you suppose there are still some blacks who insist the American voting system works for them? Even in the midst of clear and convincing manifest, not latent, evidence and circumstances to the contrary. How can we enlighten them further by conveying to them that their vote has just as much weight and importance in a presidential contest as monopoly money at an gas station?
     
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    Dr. Amos N. Wilson (1993) states in his The Falsification of Afrikan Consciousness: Eurocentric History, Psychiatry and the Politics of White Supremacy:

    Many of us view history as a continuing progression upward and onward. We have bought the American concept of progress: the idea that things must over time necessarily get better. There is no law in the universe that tells us our future survival is assured; that we will continue to exist now and into the future. There have been races and ethnic groups who have been virtually wiped out on this planet...Many of us think the accomplishments we have made up to this point mean that we are only going to expand them in the future. [pages 8-9].
     
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    Let's you and me travel just a short time back, let's say around 1894. That's not too far back is it? I direct your attention to a book entitled The History of Negro Suffrage in the South by Stephen Beauregard Weeks. On page 692 he speaks about how just one of the American bag of tricks would work against black voters. He detailed four methods. But for our purposes here, we are only interested in one, which is the first he listed. It is called centralization.

    Be mindful of this method as you believe your vote counts and that things have changed and that the system of voting is not rigged. Also, have you ever asked yourself how could a city or state be predominantly black, but still blacks either don't run the city or state? You're in luck. We found out one of the ways black empowerment is nullified based on numbers (the majority).

    Using North Carolina as his case study, Weeks writes:

    In North Carolina negro majorities are overcome by centralization. The state as a whole is safely Democratic. Let's pause here. Notice he is mentioning Democrat. Why? You see, some may be unaware that in the 1800s, Team Democrats were openly, anti-black voting and black empowerment. Weeks is saying that because the State of North Carolina is Democrat, that is one major safety valve they have in keeping blacks locked out of real power because the Democrats don't even like blacks. Let's continue:

    Accordingly the legislature elects the justices of the peace for all the counties, and these justices in turn elect the boards of county commissioners. The other county officers are chosen by the electors. OK, now those of you who believe in voting, watch this next line. Weeks writes, not me, but a white man writes:

    This system is anything but democratic, but it results in keeping the county funds entirely in the hands of the more conservative and better element of the population. That's a code phrase for keeping power out of the hands of blacks.

    So, somehow, some of us think that this voting game has disappeared? That this system--which has proven then and now to be anti-black-- is now fair? Or, can we admit this voting game has become more latent and sophisticated?
     
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    By actually providing proof that our votes don't count.
     
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    Is this argument incomplete...cuz I don't know what in the world this has to do with votes counting or not counting.
     
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    Complete your argument, make the connection to votes being meaningless, which is what I think your argument is in this thread.

    The Democrats in the 1800's are NOT the Democrats of today. HBO or Showtime has a movie out about former President Johnson (LBJ). Look at it...it speaks to why most southern states switched parties back in the mid-60's.
     
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