Black Spirituality Religion : A spiritual dialogue exposing the truth in spiritual path – Part-I

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  1. dattaswami1

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    Gayathri: Oh Swami! I have one question, why not we do duties to our children?

    At the same time we shall have all our devotion to the Lord only.

    Swami: Your suggestion is quite sounding very well to the ears,

    But you will find the reality only when you analyse the concept.

    One thing we should remember, we should not bring down the sky

    To our level since we are standing on the ground and since

    We are unable to fly to the height of the sky, let us agree the truth.

    It is true that the sky is the goal and it is true that we are on the ground.

    This will make us to start our journey, one day or the other you will reach sky.

    You have to be in the constant effort, God will give you many human rebirths

    Till you reach the goal, but one condition, you should not stop at any stage.

    When you are doing the duty it is love expressed in action, it is proven love.

    It is far greater than the love through words and through mind and therefore

    Your love is ninety nine percent on your children and one percent on Lord.

    The Lord is not at all equal even to your children and just you have thrown

    One paisa on the face of the Lord treating Him as a beggar for your love.

    At the same time you are posing that all your love is on the Lord.

    It is just the reverse in practice and everything is only the mind and words.

    The proven love consists of sacrifice of five items to the Lord.

    The first three items are by the ex-pression of love through words, mind, and brain.

    Through words people sing devotional songs and the emotional devotion flows

    Through the mind, through the brain scholars discuss the nature of the Lord.

    These three constitute the theoretical phase, which has a value of one paisa only.

    It is just like sacrificing drinking water supplied by the municipality freely.

    Similarly these three are already supplied to you by the Lord freely without any

    Effort or strain by you, Indians are very famous in sacrificing these three items.

    The fantastic fun is that people sacrifice these three items to the Lord and

    Ask some practical fruit for the sacrifice of these three theoretical items!

    The other two items are practical and their value is ninety-nine paise.

    Those two items are sacrifice of work and sacrifice of fruit of work

    In this sacrifice of these two items only lies the entire real sacrifice.

    This alone is the proven love, don’t argue that this is impossible for you.

    You are doing the sacrifice of these two items sincerely to your children.

    Therefore you are having real proven love on your children only.

    The sacrifice of the first three items is not done in the case of your children.

    That means the sacrifice of these first three items is false dramatic love.

    The word duty which you just uttered constitutes the last two items only,

    Which are the sacrifice of work and sacrifice of fruit of work.

    Therefore what is the meaning of your statement that resulted finally?

    You will sacrifice the false love to the Lord and the real love to your children.

    You designate the false love as the real whole love which is dedication of mind.

    Now you say that you have dedicated all your mind to the Lord only!

    Fantastic! And you say that you are simply doing duty to your children!

    Which is nothing but the real love! How clever you are! You can fool

    Any human being in this world but not the Lord who is omniscient.

    Oh Gayathri! Let us stick to the truth only at least before the Lord.

    Let us accept frankly our inability to sacrifice all the five items.

    Let us pray the Lord to help us in reaching the sky and let us accept

    That we are on the ground only, no need of any false prestige before the Lord.

    The Lord is always pleased when we accept and speak the truth before Him

    The first three items constitute the drinking water supplied to you freely.

    Do not ask any practical fruit for the sacrifice of those three items.

    Even in a commercial hotel, they do not charge for the supply of water.

    The other two items constitute the actual plate of meals, which represent

    The real sacrifice, since these two items are from your hard work only.

    For the sacrifice of these two items you can ask for the practical fruit.

    But remember that the Lord will pay the exact fare of your plate of meals.

    Here also don’t be over ambitious, you supply a plate of meals and ask

    For one lakh of rupees! Ask for the equivalent justified normal rate.

    It shall be paid to you if you ask the justified rate for your meals.

    If you ask too much, the Lord will look at you with a hatred look

    And will pay you the exact fare only, don’t have poor impression

    In His heart, next time even if you offer the plate of meals, He will refuse.

    You have lost the chance of minimum business also with the Lord.

    Remember one thing that when you provide plate of meals to the Lord,

    You have to supply drinking water also, though it does not cost anything.

    When the eater requires some water during eating food, will you say

    “What is there in the water which has no value? Eat this sweet.”

    Similarly some people do the sacrifice of work and fruit of work sincerely.

    They feel that they have purchased the Lord by their sacrifice.

    They never love, they never sing devotional songs, and they never discuss

    The divine nature of the Lord, because they neglect the valueless water.

    I told you not to give simply water to the guest and avoid the meals.

    In this context only I criticised the donation of water, don’t extend this

    When you offer the plate of the meals to the guest and simply give him food

    Without the drinking water, that will be utter foolishness of you.

    Feeding the guest is complete only when the meals are given with water.

    After all, ninety-nine paise cannot constitute the full one rupee.

    In fact, I pity such people because they donate ninety-nine paise

    But become lazy to donate that one paisa from their pocket.

    The one paisa left over in the pocket cannot be used at all for any purchase.

    Gita said that one has to reach and please the Lord by crossing the duties.

    “Sarva dharman parityajya”, here the word dharma means the duty.

    The duty constitutes the real love, if what you said is acceptable and correct

    Shankara could have stayed with his mother doing his duty by serving her

    And he could have said that all his real love is only the Lord and that

    He is doing just his duty as her son; Love is the basis of the duty,

    Where the duty lies, there only the real love lies, it is the real proof.



    Gayathri: Oh Swami! You have explained the point in a real way through analysis.

    I have understood the truth but duty to the children is inevitable for anyone.



    Swami: I agree with your statement but I cannot bring down the number of the marks

    Awarded to grant the distinction for a student from seventy to forty,

    Because the student says that it is very difficult to score seventy marks,

    Since the attraction towards cinemas is inevitable for every student

    And therefore it is impossible to score seventy marks for any student

    And therefore the distinction should be given even if a student scores forty.

    In a year no student might have got the distinction in the entire college.

    Still the marks to be obtained for a distinction remain seventy only.

    Today you are reaching the sky by the aeroplane, which was not present

    In the olden days and therefore you did not say that since the plane was absent, The sky should have come down to the ground, standards cannot be changed.

    You have to raise your standard day by day; there is no alternative way.



    Priyanka: But, don’t be so rigid, Oh Swami! Show some concession in this matter.

    I am a student and therefore I know the difficulties faced by students practically.


    Swami: Priyanka! Certainly I will show some concession in this matter,

    But I cannot reduce even one mark for the distinction to be given.

    I cannot bring down the sky even by an inch, it is impossible.

    I can suggest a better way than the existing state, no doubt.

    If forty marks constitute a mere third class or just a pass,

    I can give second class if one obtains fifty marks in the test.

    This better way is that one can convert his family to devotees and then

    Serve the family not in the angle of the family related by blood,

    But serve the family in the angle that the family constitutes the devotees.

    You can serve the Lord in the human form, which is the best distinction.

    If you serve the family in the angle of simple blood relationship,

    It is just a pass or a third class; of course, it is not a failure at all.

    The fellow who forgets his duty to serve his family and goes out

    Serving other fellow human beings is a failure in the test.

    Some people think themselves great in leaving their families

    And serve the outsiders claiming the great social service.

    Such people are total failures in the spiritual line because

    Your house itself is a part of society and your family members are also

    The human beings who constitute this entire society.

    Sacrifice of family for the sake of social service is foolishness.

    Therefore a fellow who serves his family is doing at least his social duty.
     
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    Hmm, I didn't read the entire dialogue but wonder about this question.

    Why wouldn't a person do their duties to their children? To show devotion to the Father doesn't mean one must lack in doing for another of this earth. For it is in good faith one should take care of their children, just as the Father does for His children. :)

    He has taken a goodly care of us but sending us salvation by the blood of His Holy and Anointed, through His sacrifice on the tree.

    And he has shown a love for us by granting us redemption, through the faith of the Holy Son and the belief in His works and resurrection from the dead.

    His Only Begotten does justify us, and has cleansed us of iniquity, by His love for the Father's children. Our love shouldn't lack to our own. But unless there is a thing which the Father tells you not to do of your children, which you should obey, handle them in good faith, and He will bless you, also. :)
     
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