Black Relationships : A Man Has Three Tyes Of Woman, One He Loves, One A Friend , One He Dogs

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  1. ASHANTA

    ASHANTA Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    It is said that men have three types of women.
    1, He Loves, 2. A Friend 3. One He Dogs

    Many men will not admit to this but keeping it real.
    How would you rate each one?
    The purpose of me asking this question
    is to find out if one women the one he dogs fits all the qualification
    of all women.

    Many brothers say that they find there prey by body language
    How women express themselves they can see weakness
    And strength. It is more like dissecting ones prey.
    Is this true are is it just a myth?
    Without breaking the code of silence of men.
    Why is the giving woman a target to be dog?
    This is only an assumption, I am not a man
    So lets say second hand information.
    Within the realms of men and women
    We all look at things different this would
    Help women understand why men put
    Women in certain categories. ​
     
  2. Nfant_De_Milieu

    Nfant_De_Milieu Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I do catergorize females that I interact with but not exactly in the same league in which you have. My classes are more of Wifey Material, Friends, Avoid.

    Wifey Material
    Being a single man, these are sistahs you take to the altar! They are goal oriented, considerated, a great compliment, self confident, etc. She doesnot have to look like a supermodel because she is more than just eye candy.

    Friends
    They are nice ladies but we are nothing more than friends. Sex is not an option with them because I know it will only make things difficult. They could be Wifey Material, but for the moment I donot see them that way. Some of these ladies I see more like a sister.

    Avoid
    These are the females you donot even spend a second thinking about. Donot even acknowledge them. They are the drama queens, gold diggers, etc. Nothing good can come from them. Even though they can be some of the most beautiful women, I know I am better off leaving them alone.

    .........................Keeping it Real..........................

    Although, the same thing can be said about women having 3 types of men, Mr.Fix-It, The Maintenance Man, Some Gay Guy. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Mr.Fix-It
    When women need something fixed

    The Maintenance Man
    When women just want some sex

    Some Gay Guy.
    When women want to just talk and have someone to listen to them and not want sex
    later.
     
  3. ASHANTA

    ASHANTA Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You are truly a gentlemen thank you for your response I must say you kept it real.
    you have to excuse me I am an old soul.
     
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    I'll co-sign on what Nfant_De_Milieu wrote, I couldn't have said that any better. That is truly how a gentleman, a "real" man views women.
     
  5. ASHANTA

    ASHANTA Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    My point made there are many gentlemen out there many sisters as well as men, are link with the negative stero types that represent them selves as black men as well as black women. It creates fear in our culture and it seperates the gentlemen and lady. We wear the same face. I have been in many communities on the intenet and believe me many men are not gentleman and ladies are not ladies. To understand the associations of how we think, how we contribute, and how we destroy the communication within our culture.
    :fight:
     
  6. Sun Ship

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    Who's the one, really making choices here?

    Sister ASHANTA,

    I have no doubt, that you are sincere in your query and ponderings, but what I have found interesting is, that almost every woman believes, or more so implies, she is a "giving woman" and rarely will a man admit to being a “dog” or having doggish ways.

    After reading your statement:

    “Why is the giving woman a target to be dog?”

    And one Nfant_De_Milieu observations, about women three (3) generalized choices, among men:

    The Maintenance Man
    When women just want some sex”


    Could the question be, why are so many so-called "giving women" attracted to Maintenance men, who usually later, turn out to be dogs? Because, in the end, after a man or male presents his self and tries to put his persona in the “eye of the female beholder” or finish doing his “mating dance” of wooing, mackin’ and rappin’, it’s the woman who chooses, in the end.


    So again, "...why are so many so-called "giving women" attracted to Maintenance men, who usually later, turn out to be dogs?"

    And like you said, "let's keep it real".


    Peace,

    Brother Sun Ship
    :)
     
  7. ASHANTA

    ASHANTA Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    My brothers let me sum it up like this,
    the first thing we must learn is causes and effects
    Within this topic lets keep it real, we all are adults.
    The favorite words from those
    Who don’t identify with the image of a real man, has been defamed
    by those who represent them selves as brothers,
    boys who walk In a mans anatomy.

    We must deal with reality denial is wider than the Nile.
    Nevertheless many men feel it destroys the image of black men.
    It is true as well as black women. When ever there is discussions
    About black women a woman would claim up and get angry.
    Nevertheless she cries the same song.
    The same thing applies for black men.
    Remeber my brothers we cannot look
    through the eyes of the devil.
    Every woman must be judged by
    her own accord as well as men.
    Truth shall not be silence.
    Be truthful to thy self.
    The devil come in all colors and flavors.
    The only black power stands before the
    devil is the blackness of destruction.

    The institution of destructions has set a demo of stupidity.
    That all black people live through the role models of one mind set.
    The foundation has already been set heavy women, naive women, desperate women,
    Starve for love women, women who are insecure, women in denial . The point I am trying to make, all black men are thugs, all black men a bandit there babies, there is no sanctuary in marriage for the black man.
    All men and women should not be categorize in the same manner.
    Venerability plays a great role with all women, not saying women do not apply
    To all the category mention, sometimes we are our worst enemy.
    Every black man is not a man, and every black women dose not identify
    With the image of black queen.

    I found this interesting as I was reading The Songs Of Solomon
    The Authority Of God
    Scripts from the books of life, who have encountered
    the same obstacles as our brothers do today, within authority of the spoken
    Words of truth, I hope my brothers and sisters will learn, behind every action,
    there is a reaction when man tramples on Gods creations, when I say man
    Woman, and Man, God is God, Man is Man, Foul is Foul

    Chapter 6 The Songs Of Solomon
    This reads from the books of life



    There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.
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    My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.
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    Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?
    006:011
    I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley, and to see whether the vine flourished and the pomegranates budded.
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    Or ever I was aware, my soul made me like the chariots of Amminadib.
    006:013
    Return, return, O Shulamite; return, return, that we may look upon thee. What will ye see in the Shulamite? As it were the company of two armies.
     
  8. NNQueen

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    I'm confused here

    Sister Ashanta, on one hand you wrote that all men and women shouldn't be categorized in the same manner. On another hand you wrote, and I quote:

    These are contradictory statements and create confusion for me. What exactly is your point to this thread?

    Brother Sun Ship, I realize you didn't pose the question to me but I would like to offer my opinion but I'm not sure I know what is meant when someone describes a person, be it man or woman, as a "giving" person. What exactly do you mean by giving, what exactly are women giving and men taking?

    Some Black women, regardless of whether they are "giving" or not, are attracted to so-called 'maintenance' men and employ them for a variety of reasons, of which I'm sure we can speculate on what some of those reasons might be...from the basic to the complex.

    For one, if a woman is not in a "committed" relationship but wants to be sexually active or she desires the companionship of a man, then she might enter a casual relationship if nothing more serious is accessible at the moment.

    I would caution anyone not to be naive enough to romanticize women and vilify men, simply because they were born with a particular set of genitals and reproductive organs.

    Peace,
    Queenie :spinstar:
     
  9. kente417mojo

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    I believe that men do catagorize women, I know I do. Mine are as follows.

    Friends: Now this catagory consist of women who are friends, and nothing more. Friends to play pool with, go to dinner, movies, and hang out and talk about my woman problems and their man problems.

    Friends w/ potential: These are friends of mine in which something more could come about. These are women that in the future may end up going to that next level. Until then, were are on that borderline between friends and lovers.

    Loves: This is someone who is suitable for more than just friendship. This could be a friend turned lover or someone that I met and started dating because they were cool.

    Marriage Material: ?....Would like to go that route but this is very hard to fit into. Mainly because I have lost interest in the hope of married. I believe in this day and age marriage is no more than a certificate and a lot of broken promises. If it did come about and I change my mind in the future, this could only be occupied by someone that I've known for a good while, probably as a friend first.

    Dogs: I don't dog women, that could be hazardous to my health, plus it's just not cool. I let them know up front what I am looking for at my point in life.
     
  10. ASHANTA

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    There is no contradiction in any thing I have quoted. It sums up my observation in stereotyping I said women as well as men. We make the mistakes and personalize our
    own assessments in our daily life and relate it to all situations.

    This is not women against men, are men against
    women. It is a hypothetical equation
    in how men felt about the myths of some, and I
    quote some, we are all on individual levels of intellect as well as spirituality.

    My conversion was is it true? are is it a myth how men categorize females.
    Coming from a man point of view I requested. Women can not think as a man
    but she can inquire, in laymen terms don’t assume. All black man do not
    think the same, as well as black women, if so we would be robots.
    Nevertheless in this time and space many act so.
    Accountability is just law behind
    every action there is a reaction, and behind every reaction is an effect.

    The reason we are so divided many live within a vacuum of one mind set.
    Individuality is the source of leadership. You can not hold one man
    accountable for another, observation is made clearly. If I speak of some
    men it is not saying all black men feel the same. If I say the woman was
    a whore it dose not mean all black women are whores. Breaking the
    chains that clutters the mind. This is the mind set that many black men
    and women live in. If I said the black man was a thug some might say
    I am not a thug why would you say all black men are thugs.


    We are all individuals if we don’t break the chains of captivity we will
    always continue to bring the baggage in our relationships. You cannot
    Judge a brother are sisters by past relationships assuming that all are one.
    It would be a beautiful picture, but negativity breeds negativity until
    the chains are broken. I am women enough to say all black women are
    not righteous, I can also say that there is no unity within the circle
    of many black women, I can also say that many black women are in secure
    jealous and destructive. Validation comes within I can say the same
    thing about my brothers. You never cover up dirt it will always come
    back and blind you. Truth shall not be silence.



    I have made it very clear in my assumptions
    if you are confuse, I will break it down for
    you, thank you for bringing the error of abandon,
    which I use the word a bandit.
    Sister many times we pick and choose words to justify our cause but I made it simple. Its like a child saying I did not break the glass mother, I don't no how it happen. Even though the mother knew the child did it, she pats
    him on the head and say Its alright son :grouphug: I call it enabling destruction.





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    The institution of destructions has set a demo of stupidity.
    that all black people live through the role models of one mind set.
    The foundation has already been set heavy women,
    naive women, desperate women,
    starve for love women, women who are insecure, women in denial . The point I am trying to make, all black men are thugs, all black men a bandit there babies, there is no sanctuary in marriage for the black man.
    All men and women should not be categorize in the same manner.
    Venerability plays a great role with all women, not saying
    women do not apply
    to all the category mention, sometimes we are our worst enemy.
    Every black man is not a man, and every black women dose not identify
    With the image of black queen.
     
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