Hello Everyone, As you all know, we are a free-flowing, loving, non-judgmental poetic family here. A person's flow is theirs, and we embrace it with the spirit in which it was shared. I'm saying all of this to kind of set the stage for what is coming ... While poetry is very individualistic, not having to adhere to any rigid rhyme or reason, such is not the case with haikus. Haikus have standards which must be met, in order to call them a haiku. Several of the poets have provided detailed instructions to us and we should try to adhere to them. Basically, a haiku can be no more than sev-en-teen syl-la-bles. These sev-en-teen syl-la-bles must be contained in 3 lines or less, such as: five syllables in the first line seven syllables in the second line five syllables in the third line I will use one of J'hiah's haikus to further demonstrate. I've divided his peace into the individual syllables. Each of his lines are less than the ... five syllables in the first line seven syllables in the second line five syllables in the third line but it still qualifies as a haiku because it did not go over the 17 syllable maximum for all 3 lines. The cres-cent lights (4 syllables) The mist-y ground. (4 syllables) Buck-wheat flow-ers. (4 syllables) The above haiku has a total of 12 syllables (4 in each line). While J'hiah only used 12 of the 17 syllables allowed, I be need'n every single syllable (and then some) to get my point across! Unfortunately, more than 17 is not allowed. For the record, the 2 words, "Sev-en-teen Syl-la-bles" <~ has 6 syllables. I remember when in grade school, the way I learned to count syllables was each time my chin went down, when saying a word, was one syllable. Give it a try. Say the word seventeen and notice your chin dropping down 3 times! And the word seventeen does have 3 syllables! While this has held true over these many years, I don't guarantee it as a fail-safe way of counting syllables. There is absolutely nothing wrong in not knowing how to do a thing. None of us are born knowing anything. Learning is oftentimes the result of someone caring enough to teach us how to do a thing right. That's all I'm trying to do here, help us present haikus properly. As always, if you have any questions or concerns, you may post them here or email me, [email protected]. Hoping that this message will be received in the spirit in which it is shared.