Law Forum : 9 Dead, 53 Wounded in Fourth of July Weekend Violence in Chicago

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  1. KMeister

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    If anyone here lives or used to live in Chicago and has some insight into this insanity, please offer your comments. Many of the shootings reported in the article appear to be those in which a person was shot while simply sitting or standing somewhere. I grew up not too far from Chicago, and I remember how often I would hear people who moved from there saying they relocated because they wanted to be free to just sit on their porch without worrying someone was going to shoot at them for no apparent reason.

    9 Dead, 53 Wounded in Fourth of July Weekend Violence in Chicago
    Among those killed was a 7-year-old boy who was shot while watching fireworks with his father

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...end-violence-shootings-chicago-311639971.html

    Nine people died and 53 others were wounded in shootings across Chicago this Fourth of July weekend.

    Among those who died was a 7-year-old boy who was shot while watching fireworks in Humboldt Park with his father just before midnight Saturday.
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    Amari Brown and his father were standing on the sidewalk in the 1100 block of North Harding when gunfire erupted around them, striking Amari and a 26-year-old woman, who was transported to John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital in stable condition, police said. Both were shot in the chest.

    The boy's father said he thought the sound of gunfire was just fireworks, and he didn't realize Amari had been shot until the boy called out for him.
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    The most prolific killers of black people are black people. Drugs and gangs are scourges on our communities that also have the added effect of giving the world the impression that black lives do not even matter to our own. Until we start to focus most of our efforts on removing the parasites in our communities, we will continue to suffer outrageous yearly homicide numbers that dwarf what we as a group experience from the police.
     
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    Do you suggest Bounty Hunters????


    Just kidding...kind of..sort of.....not really.:10400:
     
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    Perhaps the wanton killing is in part due to people who live in these communities not trusting the police or being afraid to speak up. Another news story on the weekend violence in Chicago stated that the little boy's father has been arrested 45 times in the past and has been somewhat uncooperative with the police. If you can't trust the police and you can't trust your neighbors, what can you do?
     
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    You've framed the issues well Hermetic, as most are able to on this site. But my concern and question(s) is this:


    "Until we start to focus most of our efforts on removing the parasites in our communities, we will continue to suffer outrageous yearly homicide numbers that dwarf what we as a group experience from the police."


    How do we determine what made some of our folk "parasites" in the first place?

    And if we discover what causes this parasitic condition, would they become salvageable or is it too late?

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    Of course you see no need to focus on the parasites that create these base
    conditions that fuel the drug and prison complex.

    No that would totally be the wrong focus.
     
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    I think we first have to realize that the paths we take are of our own choosing. Yes we suffer a myriad of negative external stimuli that are outside of our control, but we do have control over how we react to said stimuli. So my opinion is that a person can either choose to be parasitic and add to the negative stimuli plaguing our communities or be benevolent and help reduce the misery others are experiencing around them. To reiterate, we are ultimately the architects of our own destinies and must be made to realize that fact.

    We need to treat all of our adult people like they possess moral agency, and therefore hold them accountable for their actions. The conscious raising, educating, and spiritual enlightenment will take better hold in our communities once the consequences for actions become enforced by our own. We can salvage those who desire to be salvaged, but first they have to be forced to face Justice for their actions.

    A paradigm shift needs to happen in our communities where we see those among us who bring harm to our communities as heinous as those who are from outside of our communities that harm us. Our unwillingness to expose them to the full consequences of their actions only works to allow them to continue to harm us.
     
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    We have been focusing on doing that for years now, and the only results have been that our communities have gotten worse. Yes, we need to focus more of our efforts on fixing our internal problems. Until we recognize that we do have our own moral agency and stop acting like all we can do is react to what the white man does, we will continue to slumber in ignorance of our own capabilities.
     
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    But Hermetic, all of the above is a far cry from this:


    "Until we start to focus most of our efforts on removing the parasites in our communities ...?


    Above, you seem to be speaking toward a collective reasoning, not solely on the individual. My question and concerns are about the collective. When you say, until we start to focus most or our efforts ..., are you speaking of a group phenomenon?

    Is the group to remove the parasites?

    No one is confused about unity and self awareness starting at home.

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    Yes we could do much more as communities much more

    I don't disagree.

    I feel external forces need to be dealt with.

    These conditions just don't happen
     
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