Black Parenting : $6,000 to Birth a Child. No thanks. Alternatives?

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  1. Asomfwaa

    Asomfwaa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In the very first scene of Roots, Cicely Tyson demonstrates giving birth to a baby in a more traditional setting. There she squats and eventually pushes the baby out.

    In modern hospitals, women are expected to do 200 different things and terribly lay on their back and give birth. Did I mention it costs some $6,000?

    If our Ancestors, enslaved and liberated didn't pay any $6,000--why do/should we? What's a comprehensive way around the cost?
     
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    :SuN011: good luck on getting a sister to squat and push him out…...
     
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    Nationalize healthcare. In the meantime, support organizations that provide care for women.

    It costs money though because of modern progress. What we're not talking about here is all the women and children who don't survive because of a lack of access to health care.
     
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    Alternatives?


    :qqb009: don't stick it in there……...
     
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    Hi Brother Asomfwaa ... :wave:

    I think it's really great that you're considering these costs prior to actually needing them ... (right?) ... :)

    Many times we only think of them when they've miraculously presented themselves at our door step.

    Many Brothers are upset, angry that these costs are being taken from their check, before they get it.

    Very wise of you !!! :toast: :toast:

    As you're considering costs, don't leave out those prior to the delivery of the baby, for the same Sister that must deliver the baby, has for 9 months experienced a complete transitioning in her body, and oftentimes soul. The Brother has walked around without any noticeable changes, but not the case for her. Clothes, food, medical care, a host of things are needed.

    Okay, so we're at the birth, and i'm surprised it only costs $6K ... where do you get that number?

    I don't know, i haven't had a baby in years, but that seems mighty low in this day and time.

    I'd like to encourage you to continue, not starting with or stopping with the birth, for they are only the beginnings ... the first costs ... as you will be paying for the rest of your life ... and if you find the delivery costs of the baby daunting ... STOP NOW ... for it only gets worse.

    Good Look'n Out! :)

    Love You!

    :heart:

    Destee

    ps ... since it is the Sister that is doing the actual carrying and delivering of the child, it's a bit selfish of you to want to cut financial corners there ... where you are not the direct recipient of the cut ... it may serve you better to cut costs where you are the one actually sacrificing ... so the effort can be met in the Spirit you are doing it ... to help the Family ... Love You! :heart:

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    Today, looking at the cost alone of giving birth may not be the best way to think as we consider Black women having babies.

    We have to consider the health and welfare of the mother and there is data that points to Black women consistently giving birth to preterm, low birth weight babies which can cause serious complications and even result in death.

    This is a bit off topic but I found this to be interesting as doctors try to find a reason why this is the case more often for Black women as compared to other women, regardless of their level of education and economic status:

    "Sophie Womack acknowledges that the related issues of discrimination and stress may explain, in part, why even she and many of her fellow black physician friends all gave birth to small babies despite their education and higher incomes. "As a black woman going into the field of medicine and stepping out into the world, we’re constantly trying to accomplish and do well because we’re afraid if we don’t do well that we may be discriminated against," she says. "I’m sure that plays some role in the amount of stress that we have during the time that we’re in training and trying to develop our careers. It’s just not very easy. And those things do factor into what happens in our pregnancies."

    While women of color and their health advocates can’t undo centuries of discrimination or the stress it causes, they can begin to recognize the complexity of the problem. "For about 20 years, our model of prenatal care says if only we can give women universal access to early and adequate prenatal care, if we get them to the doctor’s office, if we can enhance quality of prenatal care that they get, somehow we improve the birth outcomes," says Dr. Lu. "But to expect that one visit once a month to once a week, in less than nine months, to reverse all the cumulative disadvantages and inequities over their life course is probably expecting too much of prenatal care."

    Back on topic . . .

    Giving birth is no joke and it's not for the faint of heart. We certainly don't want to risk the health and survival of Black mothers and their babies to save money.

    Both, my paternal and maternal grandmothers died in childbirth--both used midwives and were giving birth at home. My maternal GM started to hemorrhage, lost too much blood by the time she arrived at the hospital and died within an hour, leaving a newborn for my mother, who was 17, to raise; my mother had an extremely difficult time giving birth at a hospital to her first full-term child, due to complications that today with all the standard exams and equipment, would have been detected early, resolved and could have saved the baby, who died before they could get to him. I had an uncomfortable pregnancy, fairly easy birth process, but my baby was 2 weeks early and had a low birth weight-- 5lbs, 4oz.

    Squatting to give birth to save money? Although there are still no guarantees, for me, I want to give birth in a fully equipped birthing facility with trained professionals and drugs . . . lots of them.

    Men, think about pushing something the size of a bowling ball through the tip of your penises and tell me you're gonna wanna do that without drugs :confused: I'd bet you'd outrun a car to get to a hospital. :running:
     
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    Is it that bad? Especially for a young couple? Is there an optimal physical size? Didn't we use midwives for centuries on end?
     
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    have you ever delivered? ever SEEN labor? quit while you are ahead…….
     
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