Ethiopia : 2 ETHIOPIAS?

Aqil said:
I'm familiar with Rohl, but it is the general consensus of opinion among eminent African scholars and most Egyptologists that God planted a garden in Eden, and that Eden was in Africa. In Genesis 2:8-9 we read:

"The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food."

I am of the opionion that Eden was in Africa, closer to the Equator, which is 0 degrees latitude. In eastern Africa the Equator passes through Uganda, Kenya and southern Somalia. The Tropic of Cancer, which is 23.5 degrees north of the Equator, passes through southern Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and Iran is north of the Tropic of Cancer. It's cold there...it snows there...not a good place to plant a garden...
I agree with you 100% that Eden was in Africa, but you know how white folks are. As to the question that started this thread you can already see that probably black ministers are starting to promote the white mans perception.
 
Cedric Denson said:
So where is it?
This is from the Original African Heritage Study Bible:

Africa, The Garden of Eden

The Original African Heritage Study Bible has been prepared to bring order and clarity to the confusion, truth to the lie, and light to the darkness about Biblical truths. Its first task is to use Biblical evidence, supportive academic references, and common sense to show that the ancestral home of man, humanity’s common ancestor, was in Africa, the land associated with the beginnings of Eden in the Bible. Readers today must understand that in Biblical times “Africa” included much of what European maps have come to call the “Middle East.”

In a discussion re: the location of Eden, we must first consider the maps of ancient Biblical lands. In the Bible there is not one single mentioning of either England or Germany; by contrast, however, countries in Africa are mentioned again and again. The Old Testament alone cites Ethiopia over forty times and Egypt over one hundred times. Many Biblical and extra-Biblical ancient sources mention Egypt and Ethiopia together, almost interchangeably.

Secondly, the Bible provides extensive evidence that the earliest people were located in Africa. The Garden of Eden account, found in Genesis 2:8-14, indicates that the first two rivers of Eden were in ancient Cush, the term that the Greeks would later transpose as “Aithiops,” or Ethiopia, meaning literally “burnt face people.” Genesis 2:11-12 connects the Pishon River with Havilah, a direct descendant of Cush (Genesis 10:7). The Gihon River is cited in Genesis 2:13 as the second river in Eden surrounding the whole land of Cush/Ethiopia. Clearly, wherever else “Eden” extended, its beginning was within the continent of Africa.

Finally, the ancient land of Canaan was but an extension of the African land mass. In Biblical times, African people frequently migrated from the continent proper, through Canaan/Palestine to the east toward what was then included as Asia, namely the “Fertile Crescent,” or the Tigris and Euphrates rivers of ancient Mesopotamia. This helps us to appreciate the term "Afri-Asiatic" as correctly identifying the mixed stock of people who populated the ancient Near East. Although Greeks and Romans began to feature in the more recent Biblical narratives, the fact remains that the earliest Biblical people - by modern Western standards of racial types - would have to be classified as Blacks; they were of African descent and possessed African physical features.

Genesis 2:10-14 clearly identifies the location of four key rivers. The first two rivers are the Pishon and the Gihon (both closely associated with the ancient land that the Israelites called "Cush," and the Greeks later called "Ethiopia"). The Tigris and the Euphrates are the second pair of rivers, which run parallel through ancient Mesopotamia; these are is known as the "Fertile Crescent." Biblically, it is identified as “the garden planted eastward in Eden.” The important thing to note here is that there are two very distinct land areas identified in the naming of these rivers, namely what we know today as Africa and the nearer Middle East. However, a little over a century ago, these two land-areas were connected. The completion of the Suez Canal in 1869 introduced a man-made separation that has affected not only the land but its cultural and social fabric as well. World War II correspondents introduced the new name - the "Middle East" - for the portion of land separated from the main portion of the African continent. Prior to these events, much of this area was known as northeast Africa.

We also see in Genesis that the garden was planted “eastward in Eden,” between the Nile and the Euphrates, meaning that the whole region, of which this garden was only a part, was called Eden, which, translated from Hebrew, means “pleasure” or “delight,” in other words, “paradise.” It stands to reason that if the region from which the Biblical Garden of Eden extends was known then as northeast Africa, then cartographer and lay truth-seeker alike should have no problem accepting Africa as the cradle of civilization. Eden, "land of pleasure and delight," was a place of special joy to its Creator. In a portion of this delightful place God placed humankind, God’s ultimate creation, Adam, made in God’s own image and likeness...
 
Aqil said:
This is from the Original African Heritage Study Bible:

Africa, The Garden of Eden

The Original African Heritage Study Bible has been prepared to bring order and clarity to the confusion, truth to the lie, and light to the darkness about Biblical truths. Its first task is to use Biblical evidence, supportive academic references, and common sense to show that the ancestral home of man, humanity’s common ancestor, was in Africa, the land associated with the beginnings of Eden in the Bible. Readers today must understand that in Biblical times “Africa” included much of what European maps have come to call the “Middle East.”

In a discussion re: the location of Eden, we must first consider the maps of ancient Biblical lands. In the Bible there is not one single mentioning of either England or Germany; by contrast, however, countries in Africa are mentioned again and again. The Old Testament alone cites Ethiopia over forty times and Egypt over one hundred times. Many Biblical and extra-Biblical ancient sources mention Egypt and Ethiopia together, almost interchangeably.

Secondly, the Bible provides extensive evidence that the earliest people were located in Africa. The Garden of Eden account, found in Genesis 2:8-14, indicates that the first two rivers of Eden were in ancient Cush, the term that the Greeks would later transpose as “Aithiops,” or Ethiopia, meaning literally “burnt face people.” Genesis 2:11-12 connects the Pishon River with Havilah, a direct descendant of Cush (Genesis 10:7). The Gihon River is cited in Genesis 2:13 as the second river in Eden surrounding the whole land of Cush/Ethiopia. Clearly, wherever else “Eden” extended, its beginning was within the continent of Africa.

Finally, the ancient land of Canaan was but an extension of the African land mass. In Biblical times, African people frequently migrated from the continent proper, through Canaan/Palestine to the east toward what was then included as Asia, namely the “Fertile Crescent,” or the Tigris and Euphrates rivers of ancient Mesopotamia. This helps us to appreciate the term "Afri-Asiatic" as correctly identifying the mixed stock of people who populated the ancient Near East. Although Greeks and Romans began to feature in the more recent Biblical narratives, the fact remains that the earliest Biblical people - by modern Western standards of racial types - would have to be classified as Blacks; they were of African descent and possessed African physical features.

Genesis 2:10-14 clearly identifies the location of four key rivers. The first two rivers are the Pishon and the Gihon (both closely associated with the ancient land that the Israelites called "Cush," and the Greeks later called "Ethiopia"). The Tigris and the Euphrates are the second pair of rivers, which run parallel through ancient Mesopotamia; these are is known as the "Fertile Crescent." Biblically, it is identified as “the garden planted eastward in Eden.” The important thing to note here is that there are two very distinct land areas identified in the naming of these rivers, namely what we know today as Africa and the nearer Middle East. However, a little over a century ago, these two land-areas were connected. The completion of the Suez Canal in 1869 introduced a man-made separation that has affected not only the land but its cultural and social fabric as well. World War II correspondents introduced the new name - the "Middle East" - for the portion of land separated from the main portion of the African continent. Prior to these events, much of this area was known as northeast Africa.

We also see in Genesis that the garden was planted “eastward in Eden,” between the Nile and the Euphrates, meaning that the whole region, of which this garden was only a part, was called Eden, which, translated from Hebrew, means “pleasure” or “delight,” in other words, “paradise.” It stands to reason that if the region from which the Biblical Garden of Eden extends was known then as northeast Africa, then cartographer and lay truth-seeker alike should have no problem accepting Africa as the cradle of civilization. Eden, "land of pleasure and delight," was a place of special joy to its Creator. In a portion of this delightful place God placed humankind, God’s ultimate creation, Adam, made in God’s own image and likeness...

Thanks Aqil..............very informative.

CD
 

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