Black Relationships : 10 Reasons He Isnt Proposing

[Angela22]

Indeed. Typically, the person issuing the phrase "man up" is attempting to influence (by shame or ridicule) the behavior towards a desired or favored end.

Most men fall for it ....

This all also implies a man is what he does and not what he is intrinsically.



This is still influence towards the objective of a change in behavior.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you take issue with what you've just explained to me.

Call me crazy, but I actually don't.

I haven't a problem with anyone shaming another for a desired end if such an end would be for the betterment of the one being shamed. I usually take "man up!" as a guy's behavior being so bad that what should be natural to him has to be commanded of him, when used in the right situation.

I take issue with it when it's used in the wrong situation, such as getting him into trouble for doing dumb stuff.

Doing drugs? + "Man up!"= Dumb!

Taking care of his seed? + "Man up!" = Smart!


And influence ain't bad...well, not always anyway. And yes, a man is what he does, to some degree, I believe. I think this for people, overall.

 

[Angela22]

The one doing the shaming is typically looking out for their own interest and not that of the target.

Yeah, that's true. I despise that sort of behavior, myself.

What is natural is for a man to spread his seed as far as he can. That's DNA. That's genetic.

Yeah, also true. Just wish some of these guys would stop using this as an excuse.

I'm not making a judgement call either way as to if influence is good or bad.

What a person does has to do with utility to some other rather than the internal qualities or characteristics of said person.

Well then, excusez-moi.