Black People Politics : ▶ Here are 2 pieces of hard evidence why black voting can be seen as self-deception

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  1. Perfection

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    Hello...actually Roosevelt and Taft were both Republicans.
     
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    You'd be better off reading 'Mad' magazine.
    D'souza can not be taken seriously.

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  3. Symbol of America

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    Hi Willa, long time no hear. Actually there were two President Roosevelt's.

    1. Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt who held the office of The President of the United States of America from 1901 to 1909 was officially listed as both Democrat and Republican throughout his political career.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

    2. Franklin Delano Roosevelt who held the office of The President of the United States of America from 1933 to 1945 and was officially listed as a Democrat.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

    On another note it has been rumored that Eleanor Roosevelt and more recently Barbara Bush were the only two First lady's who were married to (fairly handsome)---not my words--- American Heads of State must have had something extremely damaging on their husbands to be married to them. I mean we're talking something REALLY BAD here. I mean these two beauties had to have something on Franklin and George Sr. that would involve a sentence of the worst most painful order, death in the gas chamber or triple life plus a thousand years in solitary without the possibility of parole. Just sayin.

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    Now not being mean or hateful here because Lord knows I'm no prize but you have to wonder just what was the deal here.
     
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    No, more like you have attempted to erroneously equate the two statements. Females did not vote in large numbers ( >30 million ). Those that did, over 53% voted against their own self interest. Then had the pushy hat march soon after. Black millennials didn't vote. But the rest of us largely carried the load for them. Therefore, 2016 is largely white females wanting to feel the bern plus fear of losing control is how we got here. Thus, we ended up with 45. The core black vote came out and still comes out, which brought about the recent dem. victories.

    Now, ALL millennials and females must come out for this national version of local elections. Get it now?




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    I did not equate the two statements, I pointed out that the two statements are different. Also pointed out that you made the two statements. You at first blamed our people for Trump, and then later on denied you did it. So what you are showing to me is that really you lack the integrity to own up to your mistake. Trying to gaslight your way out of it does not fly with me. Me personally, I would just admit I was wrong and apologize for blaming our people for something they played no part in. That is me though, since I believe in the ideals of personal responsibility, integrity, and honor.
     
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    I did not equate the two statements, I pointed out that the two statements are different. Also pointed out that you made the two statements. The heck you didn't You at first blamed our people for Trump, and then later on denied you did it. So what you are showing to me is that really you lack the integrity to own up to your mistake. It's a mistake only to those who are attempting to equate the two "separate" statements! Trying to gaslight your way out of it does not fly with me. Me personally, I would just admit I was wrong and apologize for blaming our people for something they played no part in. That is me though, since I believe in the ideals of personal responsibility, integrity, and honor. I stand by my statements. I have for decades been involved in the struggle and politics. When I invited all to join me in Ferguson, I don't recall you riding down there. So, you have your erroneous opinions. I have my facts.



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    Thanks Willa for exposing New York States 3rd most corrupt politician to infest The New York Statehouse and bring shame and embarrassment to the New York State Capitol Building. Andrew Mark Cuomo being the son of the detestable former New York State Governor Mario Matthew Cuomo who according to NYSP Troopers who worked the security detail at The Statehouse Mario was a self admitted marijuana smoker and well known secret cocaine snorter and when Cuomo found out that they discovered his cocaine stash and works and were going to submit a report of their discovery to the Superintendent of the NYSP he had the report squashed, the troopers were all transfered to Troop T, BCI grabbed some local drifter named John Hill and made him the patsy of some BS and quite impossible break in fake story at the Governors mansion and being complicit in some political smear job. Mario being the lying dope fiend and and no conscience political fraud was credited with the early release of New York States most notorious child raping serial killer Arthur John Shawcross. Now Andrew Cuomo being the true son of the Devil himself has single-handedly fractured the decades old beneficial historical relationship between NYSP and NYPD by flooding NYC with more State Troopers parroting NYPD's excellent patrol efforts. This unilateral and more so possible illegal action was committed by Cuomo because Mayor Bill deBlasio another corrupt individual told him to step off after he wouldn't withdraw already existing and more so no longer necessary NYSP presence in NYC long after 9/11. The two agencies now caught between a political rock and a hard place held off as long as they could in respect and cooperation for each other until NYSP Troopers were given access to NYC's Metro-25 Multi-agency radio network and ordered to start shadowing NYPD RMP's handling sacred NYPD only division jobs and worst yet ticketing and arresting off duty NYPD MOF's for BS traffic crap like speeding and drinking beer while going home after their shifts which I am truly surprised that NYPD MOF's would even allow that to be done to themselves without fistfights and gunfights on the side of the streets where they were pulled over. Only these wet behind the ears New Young Turks would stand for this crap. The PBA who undoubtedly still has a few old heads in it has now told all NYPD MOF's to refuse to stop when off duty and the car is a NYSP vehicle. Now this vile cretin, liar and trouble making rabble-rouser once again is having violent felonious criminals cut loose to rape, rob and pillage New York State. Only thing these murderous vultures aren't even American.

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    Cuomo Pardons Seven People Facing Deportation On Minor Criminal Convictions

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    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/23/cuomo-pardons-illegal-deportation/

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo Pardons 7 Ex-Criminal Immigrants To Prevent Their Deportation

    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo pardoned seven illegal immigrants that are facing deportation on Monday morning.
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    As promised here is the list of shame. New York States 3 worst Governors in history.

    1. Mario Cuomo with that vile disgusting fraud of a bald headed bad toupee wearing racist pig Rudolf Giuliani.

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    2. Andrew Coumo a true traitor to America and rumored to be a possible secret financial supporter of MS-13.

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    3. The one and only former Governor Nelson Rockefeller a true sinner and fornicator and more so a documented cowardly racist murderer of Black prisoners and such a low life elitist he even wrote off his own White corrections officers and civilian employees may he burn in HELL.

    Gee, is that 22 year old Megan Marshack?

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    Too bad she didn't have the brains to threaten to write a tell all book like ugly stink Monica Lewinsky did.





    Keep in mind former Governor of New York State Mario Cuomo a known dope smoker, cocaine snorter, liar and a cheat fought for the murderous raping animal Arthur John Shawcross's release or not having to serve life since the self serving corrupt NYS politicos and their bed-mates the elitist Liberals feel that murderers both foreign and domestic should not have to be put to death like their innocent unwitting victims GOD forbid this should happen to their grandchildren. Now his rotten apple of a son wants to release dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of illegal foreign criminal immigrants to roam our neighborhoods at will and unfettered by law enforcement authorities doing what they came here to do, not work, not pay taxes, not to do anything right, moral or legal like we do everyday. The committed well documented violent crimes in their darling homelands now they come here to continue their vile sociopathic ways and give not one good **** because unlike Arthur John Shawcross they technically posses dual citizenship because they can cross our border and receive the finest care, feeding, accommodations and free legal council or when things heat up and they smell ICE they just skip back over the border to sneak back home and foment more misery before coming back to America for another unpaid vacation on our mandatory Federal tax donations. Oh yeah, New York States number one worst Governor in history is none other then (A State version of America's ugliest criminal President Richard Milhous Nixon) a man who being a low life silver spoon fed secret racist coward of cowards and adulterer through 2 marriages who died in sin while having sex with his 25 year old female aid in his Manhattan townhouse, The Dis-honorable Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller who single-handedly signed the death warrants of not only Black prisoners but White corrections officers and civilian staff employees in Attica Correctional Facility in 1971 and slept that night like a baby. May he burn in HELL.
     
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    What amazes me is that you don't even know the definition of the word equate. Look up the word first, then come back and make your arguments. When a person asks you which statement is correct, that is not equating the statements. That is asking which of the different statements you have made about the same issue is the correct one.

    Also, what does Ferguson have to do with you making two statements that contradict each other? You now have to try to draw in other things to argue about because you are incapable of arguing on point about what was initially discussed about your own two statements? No, I did not go down to Ferguson, so how does that change the fact that you in one statement blamed our people for Trump and in another tried to backtrack by saying you blamed women and millenials?
     
  9. Perfection

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    Who wants to be informed that a system they've been embracing for so long don't work? Where they've staked their entire lives on this system. Passing the unfounded merits and unworkability of this system down to their children like a family heirloom.

    I get it.

    I get that revealing latent and manifest facts and contradictions from way back in the 1800s regarding this system causes those who swear by it to squirm. But what's the alternative to telling our people the truth? And are we not being responsible when we begin to consider the future generations of our children?

    Isn't it negligence should we know the truth and when we understand the deception but refuse to examine and articulate it? Why are some of willing to put our future generations in the same vicious cycle which we currently experience?

    It's 2018 now. Why we would want our people to go through this madness in 2068 and beyond? Why are we situating our progeny to endure their own Fergusons and Sandy Blands?

    While your considering that, how are these for "optics":

    This photo is from the 1960s
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    This one below is from the around 2010.

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    Both photos thematic of the same message which Dr. Martin Luther King spoke against in his "Give Us the Ballot":

    1-Give us the ballot and we will no longer have to worry the federal government about our basic rights.

    A careful observer can also glean another point from the photos. That the photos lay to rest the assumption that many have which is voting is synonymous with black liberation or even racial parity. Stand by because we gone show you how that's indisputable. In the meanwhile, we wanna quote Dr. King again:

    1-Give us the ballot and we will no longer have to worry the federal government about our basic rights.

    Those are Dr. King's words, not mines. I didn't make that up. And I didn't photoshop the pictures you're looking at. These are the "optics."

    So do we ignore the optics or do we examine it and thereby inform hard-working, ordinary black people of the inoperability of black voting? How does your vote count for you when you're still fighting for the same things 60 some years later?

    How can one make that argument without laughing? Especially when you straight looking at the "optics"?

    The truth of the matter is that black voting was never meant to benefit black people but rather the white power structure. What a surprise, right? The 18th President of the United States made this very clear when he assumed power in 1869.

    Make a note because this is very important. The first Voting Rights Act was not signed in 1965 as many, many people are under the impression. See, they don't want you and me to know that the original so-called Voting Rights Act was signed on March 1, 1875 by President Ulysses S. Grant. So the "optics" of black voting had begun 90 years prior giving no recognition to the original OG's of the civil rights movement--as far as voting is concerned--at the last quarter of 19th century, right?

    And why did Grant sign the Voting Rights Act? Well, let me tell you, it wasn't his benevolence towards our ancestors, no ma'am. He signed the act only because he concluded that the black vote can add weight to the scales of political parties. He basically said in essence, "We can use these ngz to keep us in power." The Grant Administration, therefore, was the first U.S. presidential administration to take advantage of the utility of black voting.

    There's more.

    The Voting Rights Act that Grant signed only gave black men the "right" to vote, not Black Women.

    So when you know stuff like this it limits blowback by placing things in perspective and so one should be able to reconcile why after 60 years, or, rather since 1875 (143 years) we're still fighting for our basic rights even with the ability to vote.

    Any questions?
     
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    Bro. SOA, I can smell the stench of these people as I read how you describe them. It's extremely depressing. Compared to Europe, America is a very young country but it is equal to or may even surpass its European counterparts in terms of corrupted governments. It's extremely frustrating when your idealism is constantly bumping heads with realism and that which is real smells like rotting flesh.
     
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