Egypt : Have We Started With The Most Difficult?

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Peace and Blessings Family,

For those who are familiar with this text, have we made the mistake of starting with the most difficult? :eeek:

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being most difficult, where would this text fall (considering all you are aware of)?

Which text will probably prove the most challenging for us to understand?

:heart:

Destee
 
Yes, absolutely, I though this when we first started making our list but held my peace because I did not want it to appear as if I was trying to knock Kemetic study down on the list.

It takes much, much, much wisdom and understanding of Kemet history before you can start having understanding of the religion that is even being called spirituality today. When I read the works of Kemet priests one can see it is not spirituality it is a religion, a faith system.

But some things are best left alone so that the people can see for themselves.

I rate our first study as a complexity of 10+.

Which is a bad choice but as this was started it was already being pushed in the direction of Kemet study, which is extremely complex for the average reader. It is not a works that you read once but over and over and over, then you might be able to give an opinion.
 
Destee said:
Peace and Blessings Family,

For those who are familiar with this text, have we made the mistake of starting with the most difficult? :eeek:

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being most difficult, where would this text fall (considering all you are aware of)?

Which text will probably prove the most challenging for us to understand?

:heart:

Destee

For a newbie to jump directly into Budge is a bit much. What I recommend for a very first book is "The Book of Coming Forth by Day: The Ethics of the Declarations of Innocence" by Maulana Karenga. It's his own translation of a small enough portion of the Pert em Heru that you can get a nice, easy to understand look at Kemetic spirituality and how it affected the day to day behavior of the people back then. After that you can read Muata Ashby's translation of the "Book of Coming Forth by Day" (aka "Book of the Dead"), then Metu Neter vol 1 & 2 by Ra Un Nefer Amen (if you are looking for a way to put what you've learned into daily practice). Somewhere along the line you're going to have to read "Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization" by Anthony Browder to put all of this into its proper historical perspective with respect to other world religions
 
Sami_RaMaati said:
For a newbie to jump directly into Budge is a bit much. What I recommend for a very first book is "The Book of Coming Forth by Day: The Ethics of the Declarations of Innocence" by Maulana Karenga. It's his own translation of a small enough portion of the Pert em Heru that you can get a nice, easy to understand look at Kemetic spirituality and how it affected the day to day behavior of the people back then. After that you can read Muata Ashby's translation of the "Book of Coming Forth by Day" (aka "Book of the Dead"), then Metu Neter vol 1 & 2 by Ra Un Nefer Amen (if you are looking for a way to put what you've learned into daily practice). Somewhere along the line you're going to have to read "Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization" by Anthony Browder to put all of this into its proper historical perspective with respect to other world religions

Agreed.

To answer Destee's question:

I think the level of difficulty can only be measured, by one's own standards, and perceptions.

It evinced to me in another thread here, that the failure for some people to grasp the truest meaning of this system stems from using a methodology o thinking that does not run congruent to learning this system.

It will prove continuously fruitless, to try to learn and thoroughly understand an esoteric system, with a completely exoteric mindset.

More besides, there are alot of falsehoods and incorrect notions being uttered here, all by people who clearly have not demonstrated any level of experience with this system.

These notions are:

*That the Pert consists of "spells" = FALSE
(That is a faulty western notion. The libations and mantras are used as meditations. This is common in both ATR's as well as in Far Eastern systems such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Jainism, etc.)

*Metu/Shetaut Neter is a "religion, belief, faith", etc = FALSE
(This theology, if taught and learned correctly, is a system of spiritual development, totally devoid of "faith and belief").

*You have to know Kemetic History, Language, culture, etc in order to have a thorough understanding of this system = FALSE
(As most of the initiates here can attest, this sort of knowledge is not necessary to reach one's true goal of this system, which is spiritual ascension. Moreover, many of us did not have such an understanding, when we first ventured to learn this system.

Besides, this is an unfair prerequisite to place on this system, since I'd almost guarantee that virtually no one has an understanding of Hebrew/Jewish history, culture, language, etc when they first start reading the Bible. Does one have to have such a knowledge to gain the message of God from the Old Testament? If not, then Kemetic Theology should not be held by such criteria.

Granted, many of us had already possessed a certain affinity for the culture and history of Kemet, but it fared us no better than those of us who did not. Eventually, we all learned the culture anyways, because our teachers used the spiritual system as a means of teaching the culture.)

I say again, that a different way of thinking is all that is required. People are trying to force square pegs into round holes with this.

And, I can almost guarantee, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if anyone here is finding Metu Neter to be difficult, then you are going to find virtually all other ATR's (as well as other esoteric systems) to be just as difficult, without the proper methodology to understand them. All of the afore-mentioned systems work under the very same premise.

HOTEPU
 
I have to agree with Sami and Sam. Going from Christianity straight into an ATR text is a big leap to make without some kind of bridge. Your question alone shows that your spirit is aware of this.

When we read the Pert or the Metu Neter our western minds immediately ask did these things actually happen. Did Ani actually exist? Using exoteric methodology we cannot move forward without answering both questions in the affirmative. And yet both questions are utterly irrelevant to to the spiritual systems we are trying to study.

Ratrher than setting ourselves up to be overwhelmed and discouraged, I suggest that we take a look at the books Sami listed and together outline principles that will guide us when we read the Pert. As C.S. Lewis said sometimes the longest way around is the shortest way home.
 

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