Black History : Is It Wrong to Mention Black People Owned Slaves?

[jamesfrmphilly]

Peace,

Black people in Africa owned slaves....... actual fact.

Black people in America owned slaves...... actual fact.

If we can't speak on the truth then what should we talk about?

Peace

where did you gather the information for these 'actual facts' ????

what was the percent of black slave owners in america v the percent of white slave owners ????

if it was 1 percent v 99 percent why r we having this discussion ????

i smell the hand of the white man.....

 

[Fine1952]

Certainly not! B/c black slave owners never had the same intent/purpose as Jewish/White slave owners!

 

[Precise Allah]

where did you gather the information for these 'actual facts' ????

what was the percent of black slave owners in america v the percent of white slave owners ????

if it was 1 percent v 99 percent why r we having this discussion ????

i smell the hand of the white man.....

Peace,

I used to read a lot of books. There are literally hundreds of books that speak on slavery in Africa and America and several books on black slave owners in America.

I don't know the percentage and don't care. If one was a black slave owner in America and actually had published work about it, that's good enough for me.

1% or 100% it doesn't matter. Blacks in America owned slaves. It's documented and therefore is open to research, discussion and scrutiny.

I didn't drag the white man into this conversation, you did. I don't have a romantic perspective on black people. They have done grimy ish historically just like anyone else.

What is your beef with talking about black slave owners? You don't want to deal with or discuss the ugliness of what black people have done historically? Trust me there is a lot and I'm not ashamed of it either. All black people are not the same. 5%, 10% and 85% no matter how you slice it.

and if you really want to get gully about it we can talk about who made the devil. Nothing worse in our history.

Peace

 

[jamesfrmphilly]

1% or 100% it doesn't matter.

yes, it does.....it is a gambit known as false equivalency.

A common way for this fallacy to be perpetrated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.[2] False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: "If A is the set of c and d, and B is the set of d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal". d is not required to exist in both sets; only a passing similarity is required to cause this fallacy to be able to be used.

False equivalence arguments are often used in journalism[3][4] and in politics, where the minor flaws of one candidate may be compared to major flaws of another.[5]

 

[Precise Allah]

yes, it does.....it is a gambit known as false equivalency.

A common way for this fallacy to be perpetrated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.[2] False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: "If A is the set of c and d, and B is the set of d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal". d is not required to exist in both sets; only a passing similarity is required to cause this fallacy to be able to be used.

False equivalence arguments are often used in journalism[3][4] and in politics, where the minor flaws of one candidate may be compared to major flaws of another.[5]

Peace,

You're really clinging to that false equivalency......... it's not relevant in this conversation.

The conversation is about black slave owners (particularly black slave owners in America). I have seen nothing that indicates that anyone is trying to justify slavery or even compare what blacks have done/do vs white people.

I can speak at length about black slave owners in America and never even mention white people. The reality is some blacks owned black slaves and was happy to do it and even happier to get at that money, and I might add, with no thought of the savagery that slave owning demonstrated. As black people in America that is a part of our history. There is no way to escape it. The conversation indicates that black people have the potential to be cruel, ugly and nasty. We don't have to be...... for me that's the lesson.

Peace