Black People : Self-Hate and Traitors

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Wow.

I have no problem with people who you banned being welcomed back here. My problem is where I post a thread and get hit in the head by people I am ignoring who start hitting me in the head, then start name calling when I don't respond, and keep it up as in that Dirty Tricks thread.

But that's ok. No violations as you say. I'm done with it.

Have a nice day!


Brother O ... i'm sorry that my decision making process bothers you so.

After saying all i have, i'm left to remind you all of the The Consistency Management Promises.

I simply cannot address the sensitivities of every Member, and manage based on them. I can't do it.

I love and appreciate you ... and i too will be done with this.

Much Love and Peace.

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Destee
 
:)

That was me. :)

I wrote,

" I do not presume to know. Far as I can tell, willa is a confused Black Integrationist."

http://www.destee.com/index.php?thr...nd-power-in-america.75922/page-14#post-806797

As a self-described Separatist, "Integration" is a confused position--I did not mean willa was a confused person, however willa was very much against Separatism. As I said, misunderstandings lead to attacks that can lead to wars. To willa's credit, she handled my comment very gracefully. But I have done wrong. The context was that willa was being accused of being non-Black. My statement was mostly to the point that I believe willa is Black but she has a different Philosophy from Separatism. I'm not always very skilled at words. My apologies. :)

Though I agree with the moderation that it's not a violation to communicate to another poster that you do not agree with the accusation that another user is non-Black then to attribute to them your belief of what sort of a Black person that person philosophically is.

I.e. if someone says "I think that, that Brother is a well-read Black Separatist" it's not a violation. Even "Far as I can tell, that Brother is an unread Black Separatist" isn't a violation, IMO. I can't tell if the report is on the word "Confused," "Black," or "Integrationist." Because willa is clearly anti-Separation.


Brother ABSiblings ... you are wrong ... and in violation ... for saying ...


Far as I can tell, willa is a confused Black Integrationist.


No matter how you twist it, you're personalizing the discussion, making a Member the topic.

You're wrong to do willa this way ... and to willa ... welcome and my apologies ... i'll be watching for this.

Brother ABSiblings ... now that you know ... i expect you to stop personalizing the discussions.

Brother Omowale Jabali ... you didn't report the above post ... you reported this ... which had no violation in it.

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Destee
 
Peace Destee,

I think you should consider creating a Community Justice System here. In the same way that you just put this question to the family, why not formalize it and let the determinations stand? Create a Council and let that council hear the cases presented by both sides.. and let that council vote on a verdict. You remain the Judge.. but you move from the front lines to the back lines and administer through policy.

Of course, the way I see Natinr/PutneySwopes/Ankhur/AlarmClock's post to Omowalejabali/OmaleX is a bit different than the way you see it. I see it as a sideways attack. He called Omowalejabali.. in big red letters.. "EGOTISTICAL, SELF CENTERED HATER , FULL OF NEGATIVITY, AND WITH A FANATICAL AND SEEMINGLY HOMOSEXUAL FETISH".

That's pretty insulting from my point of view.. and disruptive.. and it's his MO... but I don't point that out in order to coax an "I was wrong in 2010" from you. I have an entirely different point to make:

I know you don't like to go into detail.. like you often say.. you just look at the surface and admonish everyone that appears to be involved in a spat.. but can you see how could possible empower the disrupters? And can you see how that could frustrate the innocent?

My son's 2nd grade teacher had a similar policy. He had a rule that said, "what happens on the yard, stays on the yard".. meaning.. my son couldn't tell him that the class bully punched him in the stomache at recess.. because it happened on the yard.. and he didn't have time to go into the details.
Of course.. I called a meeting.. and got that rule thrown out by reasoning with the teacher. Of course the details matter.. the real problem was, he just didn't have time.. he had a schedule to keep. And so I organized the parents to volunteer for yard duty.. and we doubled the amount of adults supervising the kids during recess.. and that solved the problem.

And what I'm suggesting here is the same sort of solution. Allow the community to become involved with the justice system here at Destee. It's your site.. your rules.. and you are the ultimate authority.. but their can be levels below you that can help. We're not talking about newbies here.. we're talking about well-respected folks that have been steady positive contributors here for years.

I've seen you post on many occaisions that you would like to be more involved in the conversations and not have to be the cops so much.. well.. this is one way to make that happen.

- Peace again..


Brother Skuder ... i've mentioned a couple of times in this thread about how it would be nice to have a way for the Family to be involved with the management of the community ... and to a large degree you all already are ... but more can be better. I'm with you on that, though i don't have lots of confidence in it. See, it would require you all to work together, and given this and recent threads, that might be easier said than done.

Add to this the roads i know we've already traveled. Before there was ever a Moderating TEAM, the Family made all the decisions collectively ... at least we tried ... but it proved itself to be ineffective among other things. That's why we went to a Moderating TEAM.

No matter though, i'm willing to see what you all come up with, for you all will have to do it.

You'll have to organize it, develop it, explain it to me and everyone how it will work, it must be fair, inclusive, transparent, maintaining our high standards, a host of things that i just don't see yall pulling off real easy. I'd like for those involved, leading the way, to actually be people that consistently abide by the rules their own selves ... make folk feel welcome here ... embodying our mission.

If you're able to come up with something that i think is feasible ... we'll give it a try.

Until then ... our policy remains the same ... You Want Consistency in Our Management - Here it is.

While you, Brother O, and perhaps others considered Ankhur's post a violation, i stand by what i said.

Below is the post in its entirety, and no where in it does he call anyone, anything ... not directly.

It would take some supposition on all of our parts, to make that post be about Brother O or anyone.

He never called anyone's name. He didn't even quote anyone.

I can't moderate what you, him, or others are willing to make up in your mind regarding what was said.

Again ... below is the post in question ... for all to see :

:SuN042::qqb012::qqb012::qqb012::qqb012::qqb019::playball:

Let me make this clear, there is no requirement in the rules f Destee that some one has to start instiutions to make comments or be concerned about black nationmalism or pan Africanism

Now I have done many things that you more then likely could not do or would not have the capacity to do,
since being a graphic artist for the board of education for over 7 years,

and no I have never started an institution

BUT FROM WHAT I SEE HERE

I WOULD NOT DESIRE TO START ON

E OR WANT TO START ONE

IF IT TURNED ME INTO An EGOTISTICAL, SELF CENTERED HATER , FULL OF NEGATIVITY, ADN WITH A FANATICAL AND SEEMINGLY HOMOSEXUAL FETISH

TO CONCENTRATE ON ANOTHER MAN RATHER THEN ADDRESS THE MYRIAD HORRORS THAT BLACK FOLKS FACE ACROSS THE GLOBE


Now that I have answered your question,


what was your purpose for raising an old post started with a statement form me tacken out of context??????:10500::10500::10500::10500:


While i'm a bit pessimistic regarding you all actually working together in such a management capacity as suggested above ... it's kinda exciting to imagine such a thing ... who knows ... yall have surely surprised me before. I'd recommend that you start a new thread for the effort, at least let it have it's own fresh start.

Destee me in it every now and then ... so i can take a peek at the progress ... or if you need me.

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee
 
Brother ABSiblings ... you are wrong ... and in violation ... for saying ...





No matter how you twist it, you're personalizing the discussion, making a Member the topic.

You're wrong to do willa this way ... and to willa ... welcome and my apologies ... i'll be watching for this.

Brother ABSiblings ... now that you know ... i expect you to stop personalizing the discussions.

Brother Omowale Jabali ... you didn't report the above post ... you reported this ... which had no violation in it.

:heart:

Destee

What is the point in telling me you will be done with this only to tell me in your next post that the post I reported had no violation in it?

Clearly, the entire discussion was doing what you say here what you are against- personalizing the discussion and it was not only one member doing so.

However, see it as you will. To date, I have not posted in that thread, so I was not part of THAT "mess". So, even if I did, in your estimation, report the wrong post, thank you for at least taking the time to look into the matter.

No need to reply. I won't be back in here.
 
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