Black People : The Injustice Files: Hood Of Suspicion

1. Most people are going to comply with law enforcement to the letter out at roadside court.
2. Most people are going to provide the evidence used to convict themselves in court.
3. Most people are going to confess or declare to their own detriment.
4. Most people are going to hire an attorney.
5. Most people are going to sleep on their rights and not exercise them.
6. Most people will not use process to their favor or to seek redress of grievances.

Law enforcement is a cash cow for many jurisdictions.
The paying of court costs, fines, and such are additional taxes.


Thanks for the clarification. I concur but, why is #4 a bad thing if you aren't well versed in law?
 
Thanks for the clarification. I concur but, why is #4 a bad thing if you aren't well versed in law?

1. Hiring an attorney makes a person a ward of the court. A ward is a child or someone of unsound mind.
2. The defense attorney is there for the protection of the court. The defense attorney is there to insure that the minimum of due process is done and that his client has no avenue for appeal.
3. Being the attorney is an officer of the court, he may (and often does) suggest things that may actually be harmful to your cause. How about plea deals and such?

You would think that these courts being setup for "the People" that "the People" would actually know how they work and take care of matters themselves .....
 
1. Hiring an attorney makes a person a ward of the court. A ward is a child or someone of unsound mind.
2. The defense attorney is there for the protection of the court. The defense attorney is there to insure that the minimum of due process is done and that his client has no avenue for appeal.
3. Being the attorney is an officer of the court, he may (and often does) suggest things that may actually be harmful to your cause. How about plea deals and such?

You would think that these courts being setup for "the People" that "the People" would actually know how they work and take care of matters themselves .....

Brilliant. I haven't read much into this, but it's on point.
 
If one begins increasing law enforcement and the courts administrative and tort claim costs, they'll be less racial profiling.

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4. Most people are going to hire an attorney.
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Thanks for the clarification. I concur but, why is #4 a bad thing if you aren't well versed in law?





1. Hiring an attorney makes a person a ward of the court. A ward is a child or someone of unsound mind.
2. The defense attorney is there for the protection of the court. The defense attorney is there to insure that the minimum of due process is done and that his client has no avenue for appeal.
3. Being the attorney is an officer of the court, he may (and often does) suggest things that may actually be harmful to your cause. How about plea deals and such?

You would think that these courts being setup for "the People" that "the People" would actually know how they work and take care of matters themselves .....



I'm trying to follow you here, Bro.

I have to disagree with you on your 1st statement because "most" people can't afford to hire an attorney; and so, "most" end up using the "Court Appointed Defense Attorney. Who, yes, is an employee of the court.

In your 2nd statements, are you speaking of (a) someone hiring an attorney from the private sector or (b) the "Court Appointed Defense Attorney?"

If one does not "hire" an attorney," then how will "The People" have the know-how and ability to file and process any "Tort Claims" against "racial profiling?"

A "Ward" is someone who has a "legal guardian," i.e., a child or mentally ill.

So, how can "hiring" an attorney make someone a "ward of the court?"

Yes, if one uses a "Court Appointed Attorney," then I can see the "ward" comparison.

But, again, "most" people can't afford to "hire" an attorney. This is why so many get railroaded by the system using the "Court Appointed" or "Public Defender" defense mandated by the 6th Amendment. >>>>

http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment6/amendment.html
 
I have to disagree with you on your 1st statement because "most" people can't afford to hire an attorney; and so, "most" end up using the "Court Appointed Defense Attorney. Who, yes, is an employee of the court.

This is still taking on an attorney. The fact is most people will take on an attorney whether hired or given to them. This insures that you have a 94% chance of being convicted with no avenue for appeal if a defendant in a criminal case.

cherryblossom said:
If one does not "hire" an attorney," then how will "The People" have the know-how and ability to file and process any "Tort Claims" against "racial profiling?"

Supposedly, the courts are for the benefit of "the People", yet "the People" know not legal process and how "their" courts work. They don't even know how to research to find out such information. It is published.
Wouldn't it follow that if "the People" are supposedly top dog in this system, that they would know and understand how "their" courts work?
If something is mine, I know how to use it and how it works, right?

No one is obligated to accept a benefit (i.e. a defense attorney) from the jurisdiction.

Being that most are educated in public schools, it is easy to see why most don't know a thimble's worth of law despite being subject to it everyday, every minute of the day.

cherryblossom said:
A "Ward" is someone who has a "legal guardian," i.e., a child or mentally ill.

So, how can "hiring" an attorney make someone a "ward of the court?"

Yes, if one uses a "Court Appointed Attorney," then I can see the "ward" comparison.

But, again, "most" people can't afford to "hire" an attorney. This is why so many get railroaded by the system using the "Court Appointed" or "Public Defender" defense mandated by the 6th Amendment. >>>>

http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment6/amendment.html

How about this?

§§ 2-3 Attorney & Client 7 C.J.S.

A client is one who applies to a lawyer or counselor for advice and direction in a question of law, or commits his cause to his management in prosecuting a claim or defending against a suit in a court of justice, one who retains the attorney , is responsible to him for his fees, and to whom the attorney is responsible for the management of the suit, one who communicates facts to an attorney expecting professional advice. Clients are also called "wards of the court" in regard to their relationship with their attorney.

(Source)

And what is a "ward of the court"?

Wards of court. Infants and persons of unsound mind. Davis' Committee v. Loney, 290 Ky. 644, 162 S.W.2d 189, 190. Their rights must be guarded jealously. Montgomery v. Erie R. Co., C.C.A.N.J., 97 F.2d 289, 292.

Source: Black's Law Dictionary, 4th Ed.
 

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