Black People : Just Keeping it Real

[Keita Kenyatta]

Oh, we have another participant in this? I'm cool with that...are you sure you want to play the Scripture game? Okay, lets do it correctly then. Ephesians 4:4-6. The next one that you spoke of doesn't hold any weight because, in Luke 9:27 and in Mark 9:1 we are informed that "there were some standing there who would not taste death till they saw "the Kingdom of God present with power". Now we either have some two thousand year old people walking the planet right now or we missed the kingdom of God that everyone is waiting for. According to the words of Jesus in Matthew 5:48 he tells us to be perfect, even as your father in heaven is perfect.

Now why would Jesus tell the people to do something that they could not do if it wasn't possible? Maybe he never heard about the original sin thing, huh?....but wait a minute, he's God right?....so then he would have had to have known about all of that...but then, why would he give a command that wasn't possible to do?....or can we?

I appreciate your input and look forwards to more....THANK YOU! IN FACT, I LIKE THIS SO MUCH, LETS DO SOME MORE...PLEASE!

 

[cherryblossom]

Oh, we have another participant in this? I'm cool with that...are you sure you want to play the Scripture game? Okay, lets do it correctly then. Ephesians 4:4-6.

Eph. 4:
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
[5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
[7] But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
[8] Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

The next one that you spoke of doesn't hold any weight because, in Luke 9:27 and in Mark 9:1 we are informed that "there were some standing there who would not taste death till they saw "the Kingdom of God present with power"


Now we either have some two thousand year old people walking the planet right now or we missed the kingdom of God that everyone is waiting for. ...

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used throughout the Bible...Sometimes, it is a physical kingdom, sometimes a spiritual kingdom, sometimes, present, sometimes future....But, each usage is explained in the Bible according to its context.

Luke.9

[2] And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Luke.11

[20] But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Luke.12
[31] But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke.16

[16] The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Rev. 2:
[11] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev. 21:
[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

"And you He has made alive, who were DEAD in trespasses and sins." Eph 2:1

"The body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." Rom 8:10

...In John 3:1-12, Jesus gives us the answer.

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no man can do these miracles that you do, except God be with him.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, (second birth) he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Nicodemus said unto Him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the SECOND time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. ("Second" birth is Spiritual)

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Marvel not that I said unto you, You must be born again...(Second birth)

Nicodemus answered and said unto Him, How can these things be?

Jesus answered and said unto him, Are you a MASTER of Israel, and you don't know these things?..." (You mean even the most respected religious leaders of the day didn't understand this truth?)

Jesus is pointing out to Nicodemus that the FIRST BIRTH is PHYSICAL, but the SECOND BIRTH (being "born again") is SPIRITUAL!


FIRST BIRTH = PHYSICAL ​

SECOND BIRTH = SPIRITUAL

It's the SAME with the TWO DEATHS spoken of in the Bible!

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FIRST DEATH = PHYSICAL SECOND DEATH = SPIRITUAL


http://goodnewsaboutgod.net/studies/seconddeath2.htm

 

[Keita Kenyatta]

Eph. 4:
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
[5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
[7] But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
[8] Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used throughout the Bible...Sometimes, it is a physical kingdom, sometimes a spiritual kingdom, sometimes, present, sometimes future....But, each usage is explained in the Bible according to its context.

Luke.9

[2] And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Luke.11

[20] But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of Godis come upon you.

Luke.12
[31] But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke.16

[16] The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of Godis preached, and every man presseth into it.

Oh, I like this....so tell me, exactly what death was Jesus talking about when he told them that they would not taste death till they saw???

and lets talk about the kingdom some more because you're the first person in history that probably can tell me something about it since no one else ever came back to tell us how nice it is up there.

 

[cherryblossom]

Oh, I like this....so tell me, exactly what death was Jesus talking about when he told them that they would not taste death till they saw???

The 2nd death.

and lets talk about the kingdom some more because you're the first person in history that probably can tell me something about it since no one else ever came back to tell us how nice it is up there.

No one ever has and no one ever will.

 

[cherryblossom]

Oh, I like this.......

and lets talk about the kingdom some more ....

Kingdom of Heaven
and
Kingdom of God

Knowing the doctrinal difference between the terms "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is the key to understanding the complete time line of Biblical history past, present, and future, the proper place of the Church, and the prophetic future of Israel. The Bible is about the struggle for a Kingdom; the Kingdom of Heaven, a Kingdom with its Capital City (Jerusalem) on this Earth.


Israel rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah when He first came because Israel was looking for a political King who would make Israel the world ruling kingdom spoken of by their prophets. (See Jeremiah 23:5, Psalms 48:2.) They were expecting a military deliverance from the Romans and the rest of the heathen. This is easy to understand as they were expecting carnal deliverance. However, they were missing the point about spiritual deliverance and righteousness, which led them to ask of Jesus:

"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)​

In that statement, Jesus was declaring a spiritual truth that Israel did not see. But on another occasion, when asked about His Kingdom by Pontius Pilate, He gave a somewhat different answer:

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
(John 18:36 KJV)​

In this particular passage the word "now" is not speaking about the spiritual Kingdom of God (within you), but of a literal political Kingdom yet to come on the Earth. You should also take note that the word "now" has been removed from many newer translations (NASB, AMP, NLT, ESV, CEV). The reason is because most of the translators of today's "Bibles" are amillennial in their position on prophecy. In other words, they do not accept the literal return of the Lord Jesus Christ to reign on the Earth for a thousand years as foretold in Revelation.


Although that truth is rejected by a major portion of "Christianity" today, His disciples knew it and were asking when the literal Kingdom would come:

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
(Acts 1:6-8 KJV)​

The disciples are clearly asking about a literal Kingdom, and the Lord says it is not for them to know the time when that literal Kingdom (the Kingdom of Heaven) will take place. Until that time the disciples were given power to preach the Kingdom of God; righteousness through faith in the risen Savior who will return to Earth and rule over the whole Earth from Jerusalem.

http://www.kjvbible.org/thekingdoms.html​