The question is not if you have seen any irrefutable evidence, the question is if you as an individual have decided that the evidence is irrefutable. If you say no, then that closes the case. If you decide to do the investigation for yourself to see if it is truly irrefutable then that may or may not lead to another answer. Either way, the answer is going to change with each individual depending on how deep their conditioning may or may not be. The first issue to show and prove that a conditioning has taken place and then to take it from there.
Brother Keita ... i knew exactly what i wanted my question to be. For you to come in and say the question should be something else, is ridiculous, dismissive, and almost demeaning, as it suggests that i don't have the wherewithal to figure out what i want my own question to be. Now, if you want to ask a different question, or ignore mine, feel free, but don't tell me what i should be asking.
I still stand by what i've said. I have yet to see irrefutable evidence that you or anyone else is qualified to badger another into living how you think they should.
If you're able to produce such evidence, even a semblance of it, i'll be moved to reconsider this position.
The question you presented can only be answered based upon who we are supposed to be. It can only be answered based upon the information that our people have left for us....and mind you, this is only in terms of belief. In question of "how they should live?" That is another issue altogether. You can live as you want to and choose to but don't do that and while claiming yourself to be "about our people, about our history, about our legacy as a people....because that is where the cards begin to change hands and where whatever is dealt must be seen for what it is as opposed to what we may want it to be.
Whatever it takes to answer the question, you must not have it, cause you aint answer it.
It's a simple and direct question, and is worthy of a simple and direct answer.
If one is elevated to critique the lives of others, tell them how to live, seems they'd be able to easily answer simple and direct questions.
This is interesting because I have asked the same questions in terms of "what we believe. Just who appointed those people to write what they did that has us so embroiled in confusion and division? Just who was it that appointed them that has us so conditioned and divided today? Just who was it that set them up above the rest of us to the degree that we would turn our backs on ourselves, our people and our common reasoning for what they wrote? No, we are not all in the same boat. Some of us are striving to make our own boat or to use the boat that carried us for thousands and thousands of years before we were imposed upon. As I can not speak for others, I do come by way of very great scholarship. A scholarship so great that the multiplication of it amonst our people is something that the best of white scholars have admitted would destroy the fabric of American society....or would you like a posting of those european scholars who admitted that? I can do that also.
I was speaking specifically about those within this community, that want to tell others within this community, that their life choices are wrong, etc. I can't get to those outside this community, for running into all of the battles within. I suppose at some point we'll get past fighting each other, demeaning each other, tearing each other down, so we can address those outside this community that may be impacting us negatively.
I consider us being in the same boat, because no matter how knowledgeable any one of us might be, in spite of the fact that some lay claim to wisdom on high (or low), collectively our people are dying, incarcerated, economically depressed, mistreated, hungry, all of that. Now, you may be in some different collective boat than the rest of us, which is why you say we're not in the same boat ... and if that is the case ... i'm happy for you.
What makes your scholarship so much greater than the next Brother's, when our people continue to die daily?
How are you gauging the greatness of your scholarship, when it isn't stopping Black Babies from starving to death, and Black Men from killing each other?
What gauge are you using that makes your scholarship so great?
Destee