Black People : On the use of embryonic stem cells.

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First,

Let me start by saying, I have no problem with the use of embryonic stem
cells, or stem cells of any kind, for or towards medical use.

With that said...

There are those who are against the use of embryonic stem cells for
medical reasons.

Most notably, those who feel it goes against their religious/moral perspective.

That the cells are not what 'god'/nature attended for them to be used, in any way, other than in the making of a baby.

I pose the following:

If there are those who agree with the notion that the use, of embryonic
stem cells, for anything other than what they are/were 'godly'/naturally attended for, is 'ungodly'/anatural, then I ask.....
is it 'ungodly'/anatural, the practice of in vitro fertilization?

For if either party of a hetero-couple are, in any way, naturally infertile (and for those who believe
'god' make no mistakes), yet partake of the in vitro fertilization means of having a child[ren], is that
also an 'ungodly'/anatural act?

Thoughts?
 
I would argue that any act that fails to honor the intrinsic link between the unitive and procreate aspects of human sexuality is objectively contrary to the dignity of the human person. Any deliberate severance of the two is "ungodly" in the sense that it obscures in human beings the "image and likeness" of God. So in vitro fertilization would certainly be an intrinsic moral evil. That said, since the reason why it is evil is not immediately apparent, I don't think that the evil is deliberate in most cases. The people who commit it would only rarely be fully culpable.
 
First,

Let me start by saying, I have no problem with the use of embryonic stem
cells, or stem cells of any kind, for or towards medical use.

With that said...

There are those who are against the use of embryonic stem cells for
medical reasons.

Most notably, those who feel it goes against their religious/moral perspective.

That the cells are not what 'god'/nature attended for them to be used, in any way, other than in the making of a baby.

I pose the following:

If there are those who agree with the notion that the use, of embryonic
stem cells, for anything other than what they are/were 'godly'/naturally attended for, is 'ungodly'/anatural, then I ask.....
is it 'ungodly'/anatural, the practice of in vitro fertilization?

For if either party of a hetero-couple are, in any way, naturally infertile (and for those who believe
'god' make no mistakes), yet partake of the in vitro fertilization means of having a child[ren], is that
also an 'ungodly'/anatural act?

Thoughts?
Well take a good look at who or what has found a use for useing dead fetuses as medecine?

Is it the alternative medicine community from folks like,
like Yale scholar, Dr Kamau Kokayi?www.drkokayi.com
or Dr Gary Null?www.garynull.com

Or does it come from the corporate and pharmaceutical, as well as health management agencies and lobbyists?

Once that point is clear,
everyone knows about how many white mice must be used and discarded to find a particular cure,
how many embryos will be needed?

and where will they come from?
and what community will they probably be comeing from?


NOW, once a cure from embyos is found, the logical premiss is that a huge resource of fresh embryos must be harvested for mass production, therefore, what nations does one assume will be the targeted resource centers for fresh embryos?
And how will fresh embryo production be propagated and funded?

Practicaly all cures do not require stem cells from embryos, but can rely on the patients own cells, and those which have not been cure, alternative protocals have been ignored or the research underfunded.
 
Well take a good look at who or what has found a use for useing dead fetuses as medecine?

Is it the alternative medicine community from folks like,
like Yale scholar, Dr Kamau Kokayi?www.drkokayi.com
or Dr Gary Null?www.garynull.com

Or does it come from the corporate and pharmaceutical, as well as health management agencies and lobbyists?

Once that point is clear,
everyone knows about how many white mice must be used and discarded to find a particular cure,
how many embryos will be needed?

and where will they come from?
and what community will they probably be comeing from?


NOW, once a cure from embyos is found, the logical premiss is that a huge resource of fresh embryos must be harvested for mass production, therefore, what nations does one assume will be the targeted resource centers for fresh embryos?
And how will fresh embryo production be propagated and funded?

Practicaly all cures do not require stem cells from embryos, but can rely on the patients own cells, and those which have not been cure, alternative protocals have been ignored or the research underfunded.

Ankhur,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the embryos that are used for medical purposes come from the result of a woman (any woman) using fertility drugs which makes her body produce more eggs than desired.

And thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You to, delsydebothom.
 
Ankhur,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the embryos that are used for medical purposes come from the result of a woman (any woman) using fertility drugs which makes her body produce more eggs than desired.

And thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You to, delsydebothom.
And you are saying that is ok?

and there are no side effects, and wheredoes the sperm come from to produce the embryo?
immaculate conception?
 

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