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Black People : WHY SISTERS FLAUNT THEIR BODIES?

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  1. Perfection

    Perfection Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    stalk you...please...don't make me laugh too hard. but i can see how you would want to get off the subject of you calling some Black Women savages. it don't look good does it?

    enjoy your game.
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  3. Keita Kenyatta

    Keita Kenyatta Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    First of all, let me thank Jamesfrmphilly for trying to keep this in context, because this has nothing to do with history at all. It does have to do with America as well as "how men and women have been conditioned to view each other on a sexual order. It also has to do with something else quite interesting...and that's the idea that it is "men" who are basically the fashion designers of women's clothing! This in essence means that, the initial conscious or subconscious programing of all of us in terms of "what is sexy and what isn't" has been structured by men for women long before they were born. She grew up from a baby seeing it on tv, in magazines, on billboards and in books. We as men fell victim to it even more because of the magazines and all else as well.

    In essence, all of us have been conditioned by these white people concerning beauty, nudity, sexiness and all else. Do you know why women in Afraka and other places really wear long dresses? Well, not only is it cultural but it does something else. A brother just can't look at one of them women and be like; Daaaaam, I got to get me some of that....ish, did you see that camel toe!?...and all the other crazy ish that we say and that goes through our minds, spoken and unspoken. In those places a brother don't get to physically LUST because her thighs look this way or that way.....cause he don't know what they look like due to her manner of dressing. Truth be told..."the more Europeanized we become, the more raunchy we dress and the more our values of a sexy woman is thrown out of balance.

    There are countries where women are running around daaam near naked but I've never seen brothers walking around with their ish at attention or huddled up talking bout; Daaaam, you see the tits on that @ss!...or oh ish!...she got a bedonka donk on her! Yeah, I know this is touching home right now, because basically I'm showing you how PHUUUked up in the head we've been made being under these white people. In essence we've been "physicalized, which is the opposite of spiritualized" and so we function, see, think and act on that order.

    I purposely structured my original post for our input and reaction to it simply to write what I just wrote...because I need for us to see ourselves once again and to see what has happened to us under the system of these mutants. If we are truly going to be ourselves, then first we got to free ourselves....and it all begins with the mind....for as it is so well stated; "You shall be transformed by a renewing of your mind". Dr. Chancellor Williams once said; "The greatest conquest of the European over the Afrakan was not the taking of his land or of his wealth...In fact, as deplorable as slavery was, it still was not the greatest conquest of the European over the Afrakan. The greatest conquest of the white man over the Black man was the conquest of the Black man's mind"!

    I thank everyone for their participation...Hetep!!!
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    But Brotha you filed this report. It belongs to you. And so you can't expect people NOT to come at you on it. I also think it's not in good taste to spin the bottle on this and make it seem like some Brothas just want to "lust." Incidentally, that word brings a religious orientation into the mix. I thought you were trying to get away from that?

    The reason I came at you is because the report you filed suggested that Black Women got some issues if they don't dress according to your standards. I take issue with that. And not just you...I dropped some science on one of the Sistahs for suggesting that same thing. It's OK for some women to dress like her, but if they don't then they are indecent.

    None of us are in a position to tell a Queen that she's indecent because she chooses to wear her gear as she desires to. Now, I will be more open with you and say there are certain dress ways that I prefer, but if they are not met by a Queen it's not my place to say she's not a Queen or she is dressing skank.

    With all due respect that you are owed my dear Brotha, you're words make you sound like a religious leader...like a Sunday morning Preacher castigating women who wear short skirts and make up. I never took you to be this way.

    Another concern I have with your report --now-- is that you're stating that history has nothing to do with it.

    You can't be serious my dear Brotha.
  5. Keita Kenyatta

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    Actually my words should have allowed you to see several points.

    Point 1. The way that she dresses is male structured and dominated....therefore she dresses according to what man has said is sexy or not sexy.

    Point 2. Her perspective and mens perspective on what is or is not sexy has been conditioned into us since birth by this dominate white society.

    Point 3. That her and our reaction to the way that dresses is a result of values that are not our own but have instead been imposed upon us since birth.

    Point 4. That the result of this alien value system has physicalized us instead of spiritualizing us, therefore moving us away from our natural nature.

    Point 5. Truth is truth wherever you find it...in this case it was Biblical because it is 100% true that all of us can only be changed by renewing our minds from their present state of programming or conditioning.

    Point 6. She doesn't "CHOOSE TO WEAR WHAT SHE WEARS", she's been conditioned by men to do so through the mechanisms I listed which are all MALE STRUCTURED...and WHITE MALE STRUCTURED at that!

    Point 7. The words of Dr. Chancellor Williams are 100% true.

    and finally....all of these points reflect why she dresses the way that she does, why we react the way that we do and what we must do to come up out of it. One thing I understand more than anything is that; White people have mastered the 5 senses of the body and as such, manipulate our sense of smell, sight, touch, taste and hearing...all of which keeps us from activating our 6th sense which they can not activate and which is spiritual in nature, not religious.
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    LOL -- ACTUALLY FASHION TRENDS ARE DOMINATED AND DICTATED BY GAY MALES IF YAH WANNA 'EM MEN, LOL:lol:


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    Let's examine your points Brotha.

    1) What specific way is she dressing which says it is of Western origin? Because she may show some breasts, hip and buttocks? That can't be true Brotha because Black Women are carved in stone showing nothing. So what...do we call them skank? Or are you saying nudity is indecent?

    2) I concede to this point you made but with the disclaimer that it depends on what exactly it is that has been conditioned in us. So we agree with that disclaimer.

    3) there is no evidence for this point. You cannot say without laughing that the "white man" makes a Brotha wanna roll with a Queen and the Queen is being mentally manipulated by the "white man" for wanting me to look at and admire her physical. What you saying Brotha is that we don't have a natural chemistry between one another...that we should be robots.

    4) This point is without evidence as well. Who told you that the physical is not correlated with the spiritual. Do you just have sex with your Queen or do you make love to your Queen. You do the latter don't you? The physical meeting the spiritual.

    5) I agree with you Big Brotha truth is truth no matter where you find it. I was just kind taken abak by you using religious concepts to characterize the discourse. But I'm withcu on this too.

    6) See my response to # 2

    7) See number 5 first sentence.

    Ok then you end your analysis with the following:

    White people have mastered the 5 senses of the body and as such, manipulate our sense of smell, sight, touch, taste and hearing...

    Big Brotha I think you may be giving these people too much credit here. Why do you think we were blessed with the Black Woman and her beauty? In ancient Rome, just to mention the most recent events, people would go into the Temples of Auset and be healed from whatever it was that was ailing them. In order for you to be healed, there must be an equilibrium flowing through all the senses of your body. A black man's reaction to what he perceives to be a most beautiful Black Woman is an organic response to a divinity.

    You seem to be making the case that to desire a Black Woman is a sin? You trippin Brotha :)
  9. Keita Kenyatta

    Keita Kenyatta Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Not hardly!
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    C'mon Bro..what's up with that comment? Why you becoming unglued because I'm challenging an odd report you filed on the first Mothas. All the stuff you just responded with is either non-responsive, irrelevant or too bizzare to even comment on (playboy magazines?...with white women of course?).

    Brotha your words--now don't become irrate- your words are expressing a moralistic orientation. You words are resembling the same ones the Apostle Paul and them boys were expressing when they were going through certain cities in the Levant telling the people why Black Women are not worthy of worship? You sounding Old Testament up in here Bro:

    The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man...for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord your God (Deut: 22:5)

    So if a Black Woman wear pants and some tube socks then she is an abomination.

    And what I'm bringing to your attention is what YOU wrote...hell, Bruh I didn't write it. Oh..I get it. You think your negative reports on Black Women are above critique?

    Let me repeat myself here. You filed a report suggesting that if Black Women dressed a certain way that was not pleasing to your moral standards, then these women are indecent. I walked into this room and sought to clarify your position, point out the incoherence of your position and then offer the beautiful facts about Black Women.

    You clarified your position for me and so now I'll do my exit because you're getting sensitive about a report you filed that you believe should not be critiqued.

    Thanks for the exchange.