Why would you type something like this? Show me anything that I have typed about you that is the equivalency of all you just said about me.
(Music Producer) - So do you believe the white man ruled Egypt and set on the throne of Egypt only during the highest peak times of Egyptian History? i recognize the "old kingdom" as the peak during the history of kemet. (Music Producer) - Do you believe Egyptian advances in technology and philosophy was only due to the white man ofcourse not. (Music Producer) - The 18th Dynasty i understand the 18th dynasty to be black; as the hyksos (semi-caucasians) were expelled during the 17th dynasty.
That’s beautiful Nib’s and your glorious and outstanding knowledge exceeds the rest. You are highly intellectual and need no one nor no thing to tell you anything. All of your knowledge is of intellect, you stand strong and great as an individual. You also know and understand that the Old Testament and Holy Scriptures are historically traced to the late 18th Dynasty to an African Pharaoh named Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV). You are an outstanding and beautiful citizen of the community, a leader of truth and understanding that would never, ever degrade the time period of our ancestors in any way. Keep up the good works and stay strong in all that you believe.
Sister Destee I know im relatively new here and i'm not yet a payin member (i will be soon i promise) and so maybe its not my place to respond to you about this, but i feel moved to do. Music produser is right that the spritual forum is getting weighed over too much to one side of AAS, with hardly any balance. I myself find valuable info from the AAs members, but what if there doctrine is not true? how will we know if you get rid of such as Mus produser? he providing a good balance as far as i can see. Hes style maybe a bit to blunt, but maybe thats because he realy believes, just as the AAS believe in there own doctrine. Suppressing or banning MS would be a greata disservice to those of us who seek the truth and dont know yet where to go. As long as he has not cussed nobody out or disrespected nobody, which i dont see him doing, i think he should be allowed to counterbalance all the doctrines he feel are in eror. Thank you for your time and your enlihgtning site. Kamanu.
And here is the whole problem of any discussion in which Music Producer involves himself. He's completely abated the spirit of the original discussions, and manipulated certain out-of-context statements into meanings which don't hold true to their purported ideologues. For example: Myself, SAMURAI, SAMI, nibs or any other person who, rightly or wrongly, has been identified with AUSAR AUSET, has NEVER EVER EVER said that a white man sat on the throne of Kamit during the 18th Dynasty. NEVER. The founder of the 18th Dynasty was NESU BETI AAHMES, his co-regent being Queen Mother AAHMES NEFER-T'ARI. He was preceded, in the 17th Dynasty, by Seqenenra Tao I, Seqenenra Tao II ("The Brave", who wrested Thebes from the suzerainty of the Northern Hyksos power), and his older brother KAMES. I know these things because I have to demonstrate such historical facts before groups of 20 or more Afrocentrists every Monday. My priesthood depends upon it. Nor, have I *EVER* identified ANY progenitor of a Kamitic dynasty with a white man. In fact, part of my work has been to excoriate any so-called DYNASTY which diverges from the traditionary criteria for African kingship from the historical record, with the proper honorship of the KINGS and QUEENS being my impetus. I started this effort when I noticed, from my reading of BLACK MAN OF THE NILE by Dr. Ben, that certain Dynasts who were being honored as Rulers were contested by more admirable candidates; i.e. the disparate claims of the Libyan Osorkon and the lineal descendant of Herihor, Pi'Aunghki. NOWHERE have I said that the white man sat "on the throne" of Egypt, at ANY TIME. In fact, a cursory knowledge of Kamit will reveal that the THRONE was transitory, and mobile; the Throne itself was a concept, pendent to the quality of a leader, and that a white man "sat on a throne" at one juncture in our history, no more makes him a king, than when one sat on the Golden Stool of the Ashanti! What MP COULD be alluding to, is the fact that I've said, very early on, that there was a white presence in the pre-dynastic Delta. In this assertion I'm not alone; and much space is devoted in several publications (an excellent example being Ivan Van Sertima's Journal of African Civilizations, which regularly showcases a panoply of differing scholarly opinions) to divining the meaning between the unequivocal white presence in Lower Egypt. If Music Producer were erudite, or even interested in the objective study of our history, he would know this, but all of his research has been tendentious, and self-serving. So, then: DYNASTY I: founded by NARMER, a BLACK man, from the SOUTH. Introduces irrigation technology and a fully-flegded Kamitic culture to an area which did not possess it before, and which was militarily, technologically, and culturally INFERIOR; i.e., the NORTH, LOWER EGYPT (Ta-Meh). How does the above statement, even if we take it to mean that the WHOLE or MOST of LOWER EGYPT was comprised of whites (which was never my claim), point to a white man sitting on the THRONE when Kamit was at some sort of civilized peak? Dynasty XI (beginning of the Middle Kingdom): Founded by MENTUHETEP I, a BLUE-BLACK MAN from WASET. Succeeded by the Intefs and other Mentuheteps, all of decidedly TROPICAL "Negritic" extraction. Rescued Kamit from a humiliating DARK PERIOD exacerbated by the WASTING of resources to the placation of ASIATIC elements in the north, which led to the ruin of the OLD KINGDOM. The diffusion of the AUSARIAN RELIGION is here accomplished. NOWHERE in this statement, is a whiteman sitting on the throne of KAMIT AT ALL, let alone at its peak; in fact, the opposite is true: we find that a Black man had to rescue the Nation from its romance with Asiatic immigrants, a perversity which led to the First Intermediate Period (i.e. Dark Ages) in Kamitic history. DYNASTY 13 AND 14: BOTH BLACK; one Memphite, the other Theban. Fought one another over the betrothal of Queen Sebek Neferu-Ra, interregnum of the 12th Dynast, Amenemhet IV. "15th and 16th Dynasties": EURASIAN HYKSOS WHO CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO KAMITIC CIVILIZATION, WHATSOEVER. Anyone who believes that chariot technology, which was accomplished at a much earlier date by the HITTITES on the earlier models of the Shintashta culture of the Ukraine, is some strident leap in Egyptian technology and engineering, clearly knowns *nothing about* Egyptian engineering, which had attained its loftiest heights in the FIRST FOUR DYNASTIES, under BLACKS. 18th Dynasty: BLACK, INCLUDING AKHENATEN, WHO WAS REGARDLESS AN APOSTATE AND A HERETIC OF IGNOBLE BIRTH. Now, NONE of the above facts have ANYTHING to do with Ra Un Nefer Amen's teachings; in fact, I taught myself these things from the writings of the seminal Afrocentric scholars before I ever became involved in the AUSAR AUSET SOCIETY. It was their REITERATION and EXPANSION in Ra Un Nefer Amen's writings which first drew me to that controversial book, the METU NETER, but I was familiar with these facts when I first became interested in joining the NATION OF ISLAM, at the age of 16. Now, I have NEVER cared how many people agreed with me on this board, just as, in real life, I have NEVER CARED if I was the *only person* in my neighborhood, or even in my city, who may have held a certain opinion or carried myself a certain way. I have, further, NEVER tried to impress these facts on ANYBODY, only suggested them, and THEN, offered my sources, so they could go check it out for themselves. My reason for doing this is because, when I first got African conscious, I was a student of the teachings of Dr. York, under the auspices of Islaam. As time progressed, and I learned more about his personality and the discrepancies in his doctrine, I became disillusioned with personality cults. This disillusionment was intensified under the questionable leadership of LOUIS FARRAKHAN in the NOI. RUNA is the ONLY spiritual leader in the Black community that I know of (and here I could be wrong again) who INSISTS that we DO NOT PROSELYTIZE. His interest is in gathering together the people who are sincerely interested in building a genuine, AFRICAN experience, and galvanizing us into INSTITUTIONS which will be carried on after we die, so that progress can be gradually achieved, but with stability, and that the generations after us can have an alternative to the reprobate Western culture. His actions, in my estimation, are in perfect accord with the tradition of Kamit. GRADUAL, but STABLE progress, which defeats FAST, but SHORT-LIVED empires (Athenian Greece, Rome, Holy Roman Empire, America, etc.) So, it would be COUNTER to the spirit with which our ancestors have imbued ME, to try to "recruit" ANYBODY. The way I see it, if it's meant for you, Neter- God- will help you to see, better than slick words EVER could. However, I feel a certain responsibility to historical accuracy, as I'm studying to be a history teacher, and in this sense, I feel no more culpable of tendentiousness in my exchanges with MP, than a Christian English teacher should feel in correcting the English of a Muslim who chose to debate with them. HETEP.