Black Sports : Why don't any black countries have any Olypmic Swimmers?

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    nixprophet

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    Why is it that NO black countries have any Olympic swimmers?

    Anybody????
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    ... My thoughts exactly, so I researched it:




    Is race a factor in sports success?
    The lack of African-American swimmers at the Olympics doesn't mean race determines athletic prowess


    At the Olympics in Beijing, swimmer Cullen Jones took home yet another gold medal for Team USA. It's no surprise that a swimming gold was won by an American – Michael Phelps has collected quite a few on his country's behalf this year. What was particularly interesting about Jones's participation as part of the 4x100m freestyle relay team is that he is African-American – only the second black American swimmer to have ever won an Olympic gold medal.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/25/race.olympics2008


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    Come on now you know black people dont like to be wet...LOL jp but for real if we did have Olympic swimmers I think theyd have to come from the Islands where they love to swim.
     
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    Here's my take on this: we as Black people in this country have a close relationship with water that we learned about over time and in school. Now all of this could be SUBCONSCIOUS so don't quote me on this if you can help it....but one of the first things that we learned about water was how many of our people were thrown over board and jumped over board to kill themselves rather than become slaves. Then we learned that it was the water that kept many of our people from being able to make it back home while they were on the boat and when they escaped from the plantations. All of this COULD BE SUBCONSCIOUS, we never know....that's just my take. It's like S&M. You know, white people are all into that...but black people and the idea of somebody using a whip on us whereby it's supposed to be pleasurable is something we just don't jump in....with the SUBCONSCIOUS part being the WHIP!!
     
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    The Olympian swimmers are not a general representation of swimmers. It represents those whom train in expensive sporting facilities under expensive coaches.

    Michael Phelps is not just a swimmer, he's been competitively training for swim meets daily since his adolescence.

    It's a luxury and while "Black countries" are not strangers to "luxuries," one would need a Black youth interested in taking on the expenses to train daily for a competition where they are severely economically disadvantaged.

    Black Swimmers oftentimes are trying to prove a point. Just like a lot of Black aspirants. But it's nothing to judge Black countries over. The Olympics do not represent general populations but sport training facilities. America being the richest nation most focused on luxuries and boasting at international meets does the best at the Olympics for many years now. But what about it? America has a high obesity rate and a low literacy rate. If you judge nation's by the Olympics you really won't be able to see anything.

    As it were, there may be more Black swimmers than there are White swimmers in this world, given the emphasis of water in African culture.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing as to what @nxprohet was asking. Some of you answered the questions tho
     
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    Real talk... Im no conspiracy theorist or space cadet... But I can almost go for the torturous ancestral knowledge/memories of our journey through the middle passage being engraved into the dna of proceeding afrikan descendants in the "new world" as a subliminal "no go" as far as swimming is concerned amongst our young black youth...... I can see how your theory is relevant and plausible brethren
     
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    I agree with you on the Olympics not being a proper representation of a Nations athletisicsm due to every point you stated....

    But still.... All those sea bearing african nations and all of those carribean nations should atleast be able to produce SOMEBODY that can swim.... I mean even brazil has enough of an afro demographic to produce SOMEBODY for me to go for.... I firmly believe in our genetic potency but i think this one lies in between my brother Clydes answer and the brother Keita.....
     
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    I see. Though it should be mentioned that it's not about 'swimming' in general, but 'swimming quickly in a pool of fresh water.'

    Just like track and field isn't about 'running' in general, but 'running in a straight line on a flat surface for a fixed distance.'

    Both of these require specific practices. You can be an excellent swimmer, but be no where near capable of getting the Gold Medal at the 100 M Butterfly. Heck, some people who swim Butterfly can't compete in "Freestyle" or "Breast Stroke."

    Phelps, for all he's worth, doesn't compete in the 50 M anything. It's really about what you train for and no one can honestly accuse Black people of not being able to swim because of their lack of appearances in the Olympics.

    I do not think that Black nations put "Olympic Swimming" (or Olympic anything) on the top of their priorities. Maybe they don't find your rooting that important. :p

    I think that Jamaica has good track and field because of the running facilities placed there, though I hear a lot of Jamaican athletes train in America. If you noticed, West Africa isn't too popular in track and field despite being considered Jamaica's ancestry.

    In fact, Team USA crushed Team Nigeria in Basketball today. Team China might be able to beat Team Nigeria too, just to show how training is very, very important when it comes to the Olympics.
     
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    No doubt, I have to agree with you on that one.. You are what you Train For family....

    I guess it would be a field of dreams scenerio... If our Black Nations felt like swimming was worth while they would Build the facilities and then the metals would come....
     
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