Black Spirituality Religion : Who Wrote the Pentateuch (5 Books of Moses)?

Dual Karnayn

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A contradiction in the story of Ishmael suggests the story was written by more than one author. The following verses indicate that Ishmael was fourteen years old when Isaac was born:

Abraham begot Ishmael when he was 86
"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to him." (Genesis 16:16)


Abraham begot Isaac when he was 100
"And Abraham was a hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born to him." (Genesis 21:5)



It was customary to breast feed infants for one or two years. Presumably, Isaac was weaned one or two years after his birth. "And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned." (Genesis 21:8 KJV) At that time Ishmael was 15 or 16 years old. Sometime after that feast, Sarah became jealous of Ishmael and persuaded Abraham to send Ishmael and his mother, Hagar, away into the desert. Strangely, the author of this account describes Ishmael as a toddler: "So Abraham ... took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered about in the wilderness of Be’er-she’ba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast {Heb. shalak } the child under one of the bushes." (Genesis 21:14-15 NRSV) Hagar carried Ishmael on her shoulder in the desert, and when she ran out of water she cast him under a bush. A while later, God told Hagar to pick him up and hold him with her hand: "... lift up the lad, and hold him in your hand ..." (Genesis 21:18 KJV) The descriptions "putting it on her shoulder, along with the child," "cast the child under a bush," "lift up the lad, and hold him in your hand" imply that Ishmael was a toddler. Further on, the writer indicates that this toddler grew up: "And God was with the lad; and he grew ..." (Genesis 21:20 KJV)

The Septuagint’s description of Ishmael as a toddler is clearer than the English translations: "And Abraham ... put the child on her shoulder, and sent her away, and she ... wandered in the wilderness ... she cast the child under a fir tree. ... and the child cried aloud and wept. ... an angel of God called Agar ... Rise up, and take the child {Gr. paidion = small child}, and hold him in your hand ..." (Genesis 21:14-18)

The writer of chapters 16 an 17 indicated that Ishmael was fifteen or sixteen years old when Isaac was weaned while the writer of chapter 21 indicated that Ishmael was a toddler. This suggests that Moses did not write both accounts. If Moses did not one of these accounts, what else did he not write?




"... there is no god besides Me." (Deuteronomy 32:39 NASB) This verse declares monotheism (the belief that there is but one God). Moses could not have written it and at the same time write the following verses. "For the LORD your God is God of gods ..." (Deuteronomy 10:17 KJV) Also, "and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD." (Exodus 12:12 KJV) "Who is like to you, O LORD, among the gods?" (Exodus 15:11 KJV) "You will make no covenant with them, nor with their gods." (Exodus 23:32 KJV) If those gods did not exist, the Jews could not have made a covenant with them. "The graven images of their gods you will burn with fire." (Deuteronomy 7:25 KJV) The expression "images of their gods" implies that the graven images were merely copies of the real gods. At the time of Moses the Jews believed in the existence of other gods. Monotheism was established in Judaism after Jeremiah. The above verse of Deuteronomy (Deuteronomy 32:39) was probably written sometime after 586 BCE.
Certain Egyptian names in the story of Joseph were not in use during Joseph’s time, not even during Moses’ time. They came into common use at about the time of King David (10th century BCE). Moses could not have written these names.




"And these are the kings that reigned in the land of Edom, before there reigned any king over the children of Israel." (Genesis 36:31 KJV) The person who wrote this verse indicates that he knew the kings of Israel: King Saul and King David. They began to reign about three hundred years after Moses. Even The NIV Study Bible acknowledges that this verse "is considered as an editing subsequent to the time of Moses" because it "presupposes the subsequent Israelite monarchy."



"And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants ... and pursued them to Dan." (Genesis 14:14 KJV) Moses could not have written this verse because this city or area was not named "Dan" until after Moses’ death.




"And Isaac went to Abimelech king of the Philistines to Gerar." (Genesis 26:1 KJV)If Isaac existed, he lived sometime after 1800 BCE. The Philistines were not in Canaan until after the time of Moses. They were established in the 12 century BCE.



"... just as Israel did in the land the LORD gave to them as possession." (Deuteronomy 2:12 NIV) This phrase refers to the conquest of Canaan as an event that had taken place. Moses could not have written it, because he died before the conquest of Canaan.




"To drive out nations from before you greater and mightier than you are, to bring you in {the land of Canaan}, to give you their land for an inheritance, as it is this day." (Deuteronomy 4:38 KJV) The phrase "as it is this day" reveals the true time of writing: after God gave the Hebrews their land of inheritance, Canaan. The same applies to the following verse. "... the Lord uprooted them {the Jews} from their land in anger and in fury and in great wrath, and cast them into another land {probably referring to the Babylonian exile}, as it is this day." (Deuteronomy 29:28 NASB) The phrase "as it is this day" indicates a time that is hundreds of years after Moses, probably after 586 BCE. (This verse is another indication that the end of Deuteronomy was written after 586 BCE.)




"So at that time we took from the two kings of the Amorites the land beyond the Jordan ..." (Deuteronomy 3:8 NRSV) "These are the words that Moses spoke to all Israel beyond the Jordan--in the wilderness, on the plain opposite Suph, between Par'an and To'phel, La'ban, Haze'roth, and Di-zahab’ " (Deuteronomy 1:1 NRSV) The phrase "beyond the Jordan" refers to the land on the other side of the Jordan river from the writer. It refers to locations on the east side of the Jordan. This expression reveals that the writer was on the west side of the Jordan. Moses never went to the west side.




"So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And he {the LORD} buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knows of his sepulchre {tomb} to this day. And Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died ... And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended. ... And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like ... Moses." (Deuteronomy 34:5-8, 10 KJV) This passage describes what happened after the death of Moses. The phrase "there arose not a prophet since in Israel like ... Moses" indicates that this passage was written after prophets inferior to Moses had arisen. (This verse dates probably after 586 BCE.)The phrase "no man knows of his sepulchre {tomb} to this day" reveals the time of writing: a time long after Moses’ death.



"Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men who were upon the face of the earth." (Numbers 12:3 KJV) The humblest man on earth would not boast about his humility. Someone else boasted for him.



In narrative portions of the Pentateuch Moses is identified in the third person, suggesting that someone other than Moses wrote about him: "These are the Aaron and Moses to whom the LORD said ..." (Exodus 6:26 RSV) "These are the words which Moses spoke ..." (KJV) "And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it to the priests the sons of Levi ..." (Deuteronomy 31:9 KJV)




"... then the LORD your God will turn your captivity, and have compassion upon you, and will return and gather you from all the nations, whither the LORD your God has scattered you." (Deuteronomy 30:3 KJV) Some claim that this verse is a prophecy written by Moses predicting an exile. It can also be said, the words "has scattered you" indicate that this event has already taken place. It can also be said that this verse is another indication that the latter part of Deuteronomy was written after 586 BCE.


http://essenes.net/whowrote.html
 
Moses was a black African Egyptian. He wasn't even Jewish--but come to think of it--Jews weren't Jewish because the word Jew/Hebrew did not technically appear until these people migrated to Europe and Europeans coined these names to this wondering people...

No Moses did not write the first 5 books of the bible...
 
My opinion on the Pentatuech

From all the references I've read....too many to list....I believe the Pentatuech was put together in Babylon by Persian, Hebrew, and Chaldean priests from OTHER more ancient scriptures like the REAL TORAH, the Books of Abraham, as well as the Books of Enoch and Adam & Eve.

There are books mentioned in the Bible that are not IN the Bible like the Book of Wars.

As Muslims, we believe every Prophet was given words of inspiration, or BOOK of laws/prophecies.

So Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus....they all had "books" that either they wrote or people wrote of them.
But many of these books have been lost.

Moses was given the Tarot or Torah and it was ONLY ONE BOOK...not 5.

It is lost to most of the world today except for the copy contained in the Ark of the Covenenant along with his rod and other relics.









Fine

Moses was a black African Egyptian. He wasn't even Jewish--but come to think of it--Jews weren't Jewish because the word Jew/Hebrew did not technically appear until these people migrated to Europe and Europeans coined these names to this wondering people...
No Moses wasn't Jewish, but he was Hebrew.

We know Moses was an Egyptian by nationality because he was born in Egypt like the other Hebrews.

And you're right, he wasn't Jewish because "Jew" is actually a European term for "Yahood".

But I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a "Black African", like Zulu or Yoruba.
 
KNOW YOUR HISTORY....

The words Jew/Hebrew did not surface until AFTER the migrating 'Afrim' -- 'Efvim" people arrived in Europe and were coined BY these names.

If you then look back at the 'bible' [basic instructions before leaving earth] and you see these words know that they have been placed there in retroSPECT...

Fine
 
Fine


The words Jew/Hebrew did not surface until AFTER the migrating 'Afrim' -- 'Efvim" people arrived in Europe and were coined BY these names.
Are you sure about this?

If "Hebrews" are strictly a result of people migrating to Europe then:

Why are there lighter skinned people in Nigeria known as the Iboo who consider themselves descendants of Hebrew migrants?

http://www.geocities.com/ahabeliyah/igbo_jews.htm



Why is there a group of people in Ethiopia and Somalia known as the Yibirs who also consider themselves Hebrews and are seen as outsiders by the others?

http://www.haruth.com/JewsSomalia.html


Hebrews aren't a European invention, they're an actual group of people who hail from the Sumerian (southern Iraq) region.
 

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