1. Everyone willing to engage respectfully is welcome. Inhospitable behavior is a rule violation.
  2. ♥ Thank You Family - for sharing with me for 17 years. I am honored.

Black Education / Schools : Where did all the black male teachers go?

Discussion in 'Black Education / Schools' started by MsInterpret, Sep 29, 2010.

above content a

above content b

 
  1.  
    Mikha'el

    Mikha'el Active Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Messages:
    984
    Likes Received:
    245
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Ratings:
    +245 / -0
    I get where ur going with this....indeed we should see more black teachers....my principal in HS was black...we'd like to see african americans be prominent in the education system...but the education field is one of the most underappericated fields today which i believe is part of the problem collectively

    But also to me it wouldnt matter...long as my instructor can teach im good...but it'd be nice to see afircans conqueror this area
     
  2.  
    Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    9,353
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Creative Industrialist
    Location:
    Temple of Kali, Yubaland
    Ratings:
    +9,353 / -0
    There is some truth to the argument that Black males are pursuing more lucrative professions other than teaching. I obtained my preliminary teaching credential in 1986 at I was the only Black student in my credential program at UCLA. Every 5 years since I had to take continuing education classes to renew my credential, or to obtain additional credentialing. I took master's degree courses at 2 universities, in addition to continuing education classes part-time (with leaves of absence in-between) between 1986-2005 and in all of my classes I was either the only Black student, or one of two. The means that I was not only the only Black person in most of my classses, but the only Black male as well. When I was taking special education classes at UCLA I was the only Black student in my program between 1986-1990.

    I do believe there was/is a purging of older, tenured Black teachers that is still in effect. Whenever I speak to some of my former colleagues who are still in the public system in Los Angeles unified they are always relating to me how this occurs.

    However, teachers have a stigma of being poor and most yong Black men I encounter express to me their plans to do something more lucrative.
     
  3.  
    Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    9,353
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Creative Industrialist
    Location:
    Temple of Kali, Yubaland
    Ratings:
    +9,353 / -0
    I worked in the engineering field for 5 years before deciding to go back to graduate school and become an educator. I often heard the above statement and was ridiculed for choosing to leave what could have been a lucrative career as an electrical designer, but I felt a different calling.

    What I have found though is that while it is true that alot of teachers are those who had problems making it in other professions then resorted to teaching, I also know even more who did not last in the teaching profession for more than five years for various reasons. Chief among these were failure to obtain proper credentialing and/or poor training in classroom management.

    Teaching and managing a classroom of over 40 students is not an easy task. There are many who try and MOST fail.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4.  
    cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    18,977
    Likes Received:
    5,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +5,447 / -0
    ^^^^^ Well said.



    And also for consideration is the cultural clash between black males....With many of our youth being reared by single mothers, many young girls and males do and have had a problem with "male authority figures."
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5.  
    Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    9,353
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Creative Industrialist
    Location:
    Temple of Kali, Yubaland
    Ratings:
    +9,353 / -0
    Make that BLACK Male "authority figures".

    You might be surprised at just how many Black students, male and female PREFER white Male teachers.
     
  6.  
    cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    18,977
    Likes Received:
    5,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +5,447 / -0

    Well, I thought that the "BLACK" was tacitly understood. lol

    However, such a reception with the "White" male teachers was not my experience during my own classroom years.

    I have known black girls and black boys to be quite recalcitrant and down-right belligerent with a White male teacher and a Black or White FEMALE teacher could come along and calm the student down.

    I'd seen it and experienced this myself.

    The little girls would be rolling eyes and "neck-workin" and the boys would be 'bout ready to throw some 'bows.
     
  7.  
    Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    9,353
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Creative Industrialist
    Location:
    Temple of Kali, Yubaland
    Ratings:
    +9,353 / -0
    Well that speaks to difference in experience and demographics. Even my present experience where I work now the most popular teacher is a white, jewish male.

    The following "testimony" will might cause some uproar but this is just one, white male's perspective.

    I find that much of what he say, ironically, is ture, even though possibly exaggerated.

    http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html
     
  8.  
    cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    18,977
    Likes Received:
    5,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +5,447 / -0

    That's true.....Black and Mexican students respond differently according to their respective cultures......something that many White teachers, male and female do not comprehend/grasp.
     
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
Black Entertainment Exodus: Gods and Kings – Where are the Black Egyptians? Jul 29, 2014
Black People Open Forum Where Did The Surname Blackman come from? May 22, 2014
Black Entertainment "Black-ish" a new TV show where the joke is Black Family May 21, 2014
Black Spirituality / Religion - General Discussion Where is the Black Spiritual Community in Rhode Island?de Island Feb 2, 2014
Black Spirituality / Religion - General Discussion Discouraged Sometimes? Then Remember Where You Belong Black Woman Oct 16, 2013
Black People Open Forum The Web Site Where Only Black People Participate - Where Is It? Aug 25, 2013
Black People Open Forum I Wonder Where Does Descendants Of Black Slave Owners Live Now Jan 10, 2013
Black History - Culture - Panafricanism Are We Ashamed of our Blackness - Africa: Where black is not really beautiful Jan 1, 2013
Black People Politics Black Problem Solvers - Supporters - Where are they? - Another open question.... Aug 3, 2012
Black Parenting Where is a good place to raise black kids? Jun 25, 2012