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Black Spirituality Religion : Whats the difference between the Orishas, Loa, Alusi, Neteru, etc

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    Onyemobi

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    In my studies, I have come across many traditions, and many different deities in each that not only share similar attributes, but also similar colors, whether its Heru of the Neteru, Shango of the Orishas and Amadioha of the Alusi, or Erzulie Dantor of the Loa, Het-Heru of the Neteru, and Osun of the Orishas. But over and over again, priests will say that the Orishas and the Neteru or Loa or whatever tradition are similar but NOT interchangable, which confuses me. If each of them is controls a certain aspect of our world, how can they all be different? What is the difference between the Neteru, Orishas, Loa, Alusi, etc?
     
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    A few examples:

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    Obatala of the Orishas

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    Ausar of the Neteru



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    Siete Rayos of the Nkisis

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    Shango of the Orishas

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    Heru of the Neteru


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    Oshun of the Orishas


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    Het-Heru of the Neteru

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    Ezili Dantor of the Loa
     
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    They ALL exist on different planes of reality.
     
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    Erzulie Freda is my homegirl!
     
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    Freda always chastises me when she comes down. My daughter has a strong Freda around her - she cries for everything, is prissy as can be, I call her my lil fashionista, loves pink, green and blue and has a sarcastic wit about her. I believe Freda "cursed" me with her to torment me. LOL...

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    It's been my experience that these spirits are very much similiar but differ in their degree of intensity. Siete Rayos is much hotter than Shango and the same for Zarabanda when we compare him to Ogun. Here's a funny thing, I have a strong affinity to Eleggua, but in Haitian Vodou my affinity is closer to Kouzen Azaka.

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    When I was younger, I use to have these very erotic dreams and dealings with this light skinned almost white lookin' woman, and I found out it was a Pomba Gira. It seems she is similar to Erzulie. I can see how a lot of these spirits are similar but different in their own way...
     
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    Thats so sweet.

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    Pomba Gira, from what I know about her, is not related to any of the common Ezili (Erzulies) like Dantor or Freda. Dantor will cut your heart out if you approach her wrong and she is not sexual in that aspect. Freda is more concerned about "nice things" than erotic affairs. Also, neither of these Ezilis get along. You would never place Dantor next to Freda and when they call them down, they are called down separately because they would fight each other. So it's safe to say that Freda and Dantor may be sisters, but they are not on friendly terms. If a person marries Freda, he must also marry Dantor and vice versa because the one is jealous of the other.

    Here are some of the commonly made correspondences between the Orisa and the Nkisi.

    Lucero/Nkuyu - Eshu/Eleggua - Legba
    Siete Rayos - Shango - Ogou St. Jacques
    Zarabanda - Ogun - Ogou Feraille
    Mama Chola - Oshun - Freda
    Mama Kalunga - Yemaya - Lasiren
    Centella Ndoki - Oya - Dantor

    There are other correspondences, but it is not advised to confused them because, trust me, they are still separate.

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    POMBA GIRA IS MORE LIKE A FEMALE ESHU WHICH THERE IS MANY ESHUS IN CONDOMBLE.
     
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