Black Spirituality Religion : Using the Bible, Quran, etc., but not Christian or Muslim

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  1. info-moetry Well-Known Member

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    One other note...and perhaps the most important note of all. Since 95% of what is in the Bible and Qu'ran is NOT ORIGINAL and they took it from earlier writings without a doubt....then if anything, what is being critiqued is not anything that Black people ORIGINALLY WROTE. How do I know this to be true? What language do they claim it came from? Since it came out of Memphis Kemet, then it is to Memphis that the search must begin....not with the Greeks or the Hebrews but the Kemites...the same place that Moses, Abraham, Joshua, David, Jesus and all the rest was hanging at if we have to go by the scriptures. So if the most so called divine in the Bible were hanging out in Kemet, then it is to Kemet that we must begin our search.

    It is in Kemet that the early Christians went in and COVERED UP, PLASTERED UP, CUT OFF THE NOSES AND DESTROYED AFRAKAN CULTURE. Now why would they do all of that if what they possessed had no relationship to Kemet and was ORIGINAL FROM THE LIPS OF GOD TO THE EARS OF THE SAID PROPHETS??? On the other hand, here we are with this most magnificent gift called a brain and yet we are being asked and in some cases demanded NOT TO USE IT.....RIGHT!!
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    Come on now, Ru2.... You up in here comparing liking or not liking a CAR (a Benz) to JUDGING something or someone?! ---- REALLY?!

    ...And the eating meat thing is also answered IN THE BIBLE:

    Col.2[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:


    No, this is YOUR "MIS-INTERPRETATION" and MIS-APPLICATION of the word "JUDGE" in Matthew 7.

    Matthew 7: 1-5 is part of Yeshua's "Sermon on the Mount" which speaks to "judging" HYPOCRITICALLY and HARSHLY and "judging" anyone's SALVATION because only GOD can "judge" salvation....not "judging" to CONDEMN.

    The Bible does NOT forbid JUDGING. It forbids JUDGING hypocritically and harshly.

    While speaking in the Temple, Yeshua also instructed:

    John 7:
    [24] Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    Matt.7
    [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    [4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
    [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


    Now, this is not a so-called "contradiction." --- This is Yeshua telling us to JUDGE RIGHTLY, to JUDGE FAIRLY, to JUDGE with LOVE....NOT IN CRITICISM but through DISCERNMENT of RIGHT and WRONG.

    And in order to do so, one must make a "JUDGEMENT" but even that is NOT done by the flesh but by the SPIRIT by seeking GOD'S "JUDGEMENT" in one's own "judgement." >>>>

    Proverbs 3:
    [5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    [7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

    1 Cor. 2:
    [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
    [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
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    Well said!

    Yes, the level and source of their "knowledge" and their UNDERSTANDING is what makes them MIS-INTERPRET, MIS-APPLY and MIS-USE Bible verses.

    Proverbs 4:
    [7] Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
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    Oh no, Gorilla. There are MANY thread discussions on this site "dissecting" various belief systems, Christianity being one of them.--There are COUNTLESS threads here about so-called "contradictions" in the Bible and Jesus and Christianity being "myths" and Christianity being copied from Kemet, etc...

    Trust & believe that Christianity and the Bible are FAVORITE DISCUSSION TOPICS here on this site.

    But, that's NOT what THIS thread is about.

    No, THIS thread topic is about some members here who DO NOT adhere to Christianity or Islam QUOTING from the Bible or the Quran to SUPPORT their posts/stances/statements when they have made it very well known that they DO NOT accept nor believe in these books nor faiths.

    Now, as a Christian, my holy text of reference is the Bible. So, I can only speak to it. --- So, I bumped up this thread because there are some members here who are EX-Christians USING and QUOTING the BIBLE, the very book they DO NOT believe in, the very book they DENOUNCE, RIDICULE and REJECT...Some of these same members use and quote the BIBLE in thread topics totally UNRELATED to Christianity to give CREDENCE and SUPPORT to their posts.

    So, if, (according to some), the Bible is "copied from Kemet," then how do THEY know which parts are "copied" and which are NOT??

    How can these certain people ascertain which parts of the Bible are "reliable" enough for them to ACCEPT as "truth" and which parts are NOT?

    How can these certain people DETERMINE which parts of the Bible are "credible" enough and which parts are NOT?

    How is it that these certain people get to PICK & CHOOSE/CHERRY-PICK Bible verses for their own devices when they have SOUNDLY made known their AVERSION to the Bible?

    Because, ya see, some of these same people who CASTIGATE the Bible will also USE IT and QUOTE IT in their own posts about subjects NOT related to Christianity or the Bible, both of which they DISDAIN in their other threads and posts.

    ...and THAT is what THIS thread topic is about.