(SAMURAI36) - If that's the case, and if the DOGON were a mere part of these remnants, then their theology is also a mere remnant. And since they have no written language (spiritually exclusive or otherwise), then we have no way of proving any assertion about it. it's my understanding that kemet was a confederation of african tribes, and the dogon was apart of that confederation. master naba at the earth center is a dogon spiritual healer that teaches a kemetic doctrine; including medu. they say the dogon have medu neter papyrus that aren't shown outside of africa. here is master naba's answer to this issue: http://www.theearthcenter.com/index.php?home/faq#21 21. I have heard of the Dogon and I have heard of Kemet but I thought they were two different things. How are they related? How can he (Master Naba) be both? There are misconceptions surrounding both the Dogon and Kemet. Kemet is a territory much larger than just Ancient "Egypt" it is determined by value and spiritual system. The Dogon are made up of certain bloodlines whose job it was to protect the highest knowledge of the universe. The bloodlines are dispersed through Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger.
(Music Producer) - I doubt that is true seeing I just read a section in the Pale Fox where they allowed photos to be taken of the initiation table and explained it in detail and did the same with the divination table and also allowed the team to photograph sacred drawings. I suspect Griaule was initiated because the Dogon understood what he would do with the information. there is no reason to believe that the european observers know all of dogon knowledge that there is to know other than the fact that you wish to believe that. (Music Producer) - What other entity do the Dogon refer to as GOD besides Amma? do you deny that they pray and making offerings to their ancestors and the nummo? (Music Producer) - I understand why you will try to destroy the Dogon theology. we've argued this before, and you didn't have a response for the words in the books you claim to own. entire chapters are dedicated to explaining the worship of beings other than amma. honestly i think you would be outraged if you visited the dogon. let's look at the earth center's claim regarding religion: http://www.theearthcenter.com/index.php?home/faq#26 26. What religion is this associated with? The Earth Center is a spiritual center that teaches a greater understanding of what is required to live a spiritual life. It far predates all religions, as well as the practice of choosing to honor one God over others (monotheism). now, why should we discount what a dogon spiritual healer has to say? is there any reason to think that master naba's ideas, which are in sync with other atr's and the kemetic teachings we know of; are somehow less credible than your interpretation that demonstrably contradicts the sources (european observers) you cite?
There is no reason to believe that the Dogon would have left out critical understanding of Amma when they knew the European would publish a book revealing knowledge designated as being for all humans. I personally have no reason to misrepresent the information I obtain from the Europeans observations. You however do, “Earth Center”, “Master Naba”, for the group, for the maintaining of the spiritual sect, which you seem to be apart of, or considering membership. No sir, I don’t deny that at all. Now I will ask you my question again……. What other entity do the Dogon refer to as GOD besides Amma? I probably would and I would ask for direction to the alter to Amma, whom is the only Being the Dogon refer to as GOD. They also get extremely angry when you refer to them as polytheistic or totemic as Griaule recorded how the Dogon was about to vanquish the entire European team for trying to do so, as Griaule described it as an extremely intense moment in which they had to stop using the word totemic in front of the people. This is good but it shows degradation in Dogon thought. This is the way it should read…. …as well as the practice of choosing to honor one God. There is no “over others” because the Dogon know no “others”, nor acknowledge them as such. Further more this information from the Earth Center reveals a conflict in your personal thought of the Dogon practice as being polytheistic and reveals that only you and those of the Kemetic promotion desire it to be as such. I was correct in describing the Dogon as Monotheistic, which is clearly explained in Griaule’s observations. I don’t recall myself doing so. As far as I see from what you took from their web page there is no contradiction between Griaule and Earth Center. The contradiction comes from you thus far when you try to sync Kemet (Polytheistic) and Dogon (Monotheistic) concepts and fail to reveal that Kemet theology became a corruption of what the Dogon present. The Dogon are made up of certain bloodlines whose job it was to protect the highest knowledge of the universe. Thus we can begin to accept that Kemet became a corruption of the protected highest knowledge.
(Music Producer) - There is no reason to believe that the Dogon would have left out critical understanding of Amma when they knew the European would publish a book revealing knowledge designated as being for all humans. your logic is baseless and circular. ogotemmeli states directly to the european that some of the things he says are tailored for the european. it is stated directly that ogotemmeli doesn't care much for the europeans, or hold anything against them. he leaves them to their fate. thus, he is not trying to preach to change the world, as you are suggesting. (Music Producer) - No sir, I don’t deny that at all. Now I will ask you my question again……. What other entity do the Dogon refer to as GOD besides Amma? we again reach the crux of your misunderstanding. god is a german/english word. you are relying on suspect translations by europeans to equate neter to god. (Music Producer) - They also get extremely angry when you refer to them as polytheistic or totemic as Griaule recorded how the Dogon was about to vanquish the entire European team for trying to do so noone in this thread has used the word "totemism". it is very dishonest for you to introduce the word "totemism" and try to use the dogon reaction to "totemism" in a discussion of who they worship. by the way...what's the significance of humans having animal twins, and every other animal having a complement...etc? human spirits using their animal twins for communication...etc. (Music Producer) - I was correct in describing the Dogon as Monotheistic, which is clearly explained in Griaule’s observations. you cannot deny that the dogon worship the nummo, that actually finished creation as amma abandoned it. you cannot deny that the dogon make offerings and prayers to the spirits of their ancestors, the first man...etc.