i have read that the Dogon were actually the priest class in Egypt at one time....forgot where i read it tho
(Music Producer) - Please name the tribes in Africa today that can read Egyptian Hieroglyphs and did not obtain the ability from European studies. i have also heard that the dogon were kemetic priests, and were able to read medu. we have the stories of priestly castes in kemet fleeing on multiple occasions. also, under king khufu, a brotherhood of priests was setup across africa by one of khufu's high priests. the igbo state that they were in kemet and left, in the book "after god is dibia vol 2" it is mentioned that the igbo had several scripts that were reserved for spiritual teachings and only known to the priesthood. but the exact nature of the scripts isn't stated. (Music Producer) - As far as I know, through my study of Dogon, they continue to have no written language and never have had one there is no use for it because the elders of the people transmit religiously to the younger what they need to know and understand about themselves as a people. it's my understanding that written language was preserved, reserved for spiritual teachings, and is a secret reserved only for some initiated priests in a tribe. thus, a european studying the dogon may not have been told, and may not have spoken with someone who would know this. when the yoruba, igbo, akan, dogon...etc all literally state that their ancestors were in kemet; and we know kemet had written language...why do we believe that written language was lost? the greeks got their script from canaan, canaan was black. diop documents this. it's really the europeans that never developed a script. (Music Producer) - the Dogon are Monotheist and Amma is the ONLY Being they refer to as GOD, all others are ancestors. in this forum we've demonstrated that you are wrong abou the dogon. the dogon are not monotheists as you believe. i don't understand how you have come to that conclusion based on the books in your posession.
(Music Producer) - “Let the ancestors Speak”, is it or is it not a hieroglyphic dictionary in which I can use to translate several Egyptian stories of the gods? if you want to learn to speak and read hieroglyphics, i'd suggest getting "let the ancestors speak". additionally, you will be able to appreciate the more subtle meaning of the glyphs. if you want to translate kemetic stories on your own, i would definitely reccommending getting "let the ancestors speak". however, i am very concerned with what your translations will say
The only problem with this, lies in the fact that we are left to discern where the DOGON as an exact entity was the cause of Kemet, or the result of it. DIOP (and the others that I mentioned in an above post) states that these large, complex societies were the result of remnants of Kemet after they fled invasion. If that's the case, and if the DOGON were a mere part of these remnants, then their theology is also a mere remnant. And since they have no written language (spiritually exclusive or otherwise), then we have no way of proving any assertion about it. In the absence of the evidence, I'm willing to concede to this notion. Aha!! We now come to the crux of it all. Precisely. (Music Producer) - the Dogon are Monotheist and Amma is the ONLY Being they refer to as GOD, all others are ancestors. in this forum we've demonstrated that you are wrong abou the dogon. the dogon are not monotheists as you believe. i don't understand how you have come to that conclusion based on the books in your posession.[/QUOTE] It's pointless to wait around for this answer. He's not even going to tell us how the QABALAH works. Perhaps something along the lines of "Thus sayeth Ptah-Hotep: My ancestor Ankhen-Aten and "Adon-Ay" will be solely responsible for all things spiritual from here on....In fact, I don't even know why I'm wasting my time writing the Maxims, because they will be obsolete in a few hundred years, when my man Ankhen-Aten arrives". PEACE
Well, this would all be fine and dandy but the problem is the Dogon have an Oral history of being in Egypt that predates the flooding of the earth. They say the reason they left Egypt is because they were warned by the Nummo to get away from the river and go to high land which is one of the reasons they continue to this day to make their villages literally on mountain tops and high lands. Thus the Dogon story of being in Egypt predates any dynastic period. I doubt that is true seeing I just read a section in the Pale Fox where they allowed photos to be taken of the initiation table and explained it in detail and did the same with the divination table and also allowed the team to photograph sacred drawings. I suspect Griaule was initiated because the Dogon understood what he would do with the information. One of the first things Ogotemmeli said to Griaule was, “GOD sent you, GOD sent you”, and then he explained that the information he was about to receive is for all mankind to receive. It will be difficult to destroy or alter Griaule’s works because of the original sounding English representation of the Dogon Song. It shows that as Griaule was recording this, the Priest was singing the entire thing. The best thing I like about how it was recorded is it was translated into English by a Dogon who had learned the English language instead of the other way around. What other entity do the Dogon refer to as GOD besides Amma? I understand why you will try to destroy the Dogon theology. You have read the books and you have seen where Kemet barrowed, corrupted and twisted their ideals and instead of revealing the Truth of this, you have elected to misrepresent the Dogon in order to protect the Kemet version. This is wrong in principal and morality.