Black People : The true arabs

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The real arabs are still alive,and they a got a story to tell about what is an arab.You people need to understand that we are the original men and women,stop giving whites that attention,they are just children,you can't limit black history to Afrika.

A True Story

"I am Miskeen-for those who know me! My color is dark-the color of the Arabs!"

(words of Miskeen Al Darimi- 7th century AD.)

! انا مسكين لمن يعرفني- لوني السمرة- الوان العرب

(كلمات مسكين الدارمي- القرن السابع الميلادي)

What compelled the famous 7th century pure Arab poet Miskeen Al Darimi to say these words? Before I explain the story behind these words and their significance, I should give some background knowledge about Miskeen Al Darimi.

ماذا جعل مسكين الدارمي- الشاعرالعربي المحض المشهور من القرن السابع - يقول هذه الكلمات؟ قبل ان اشرح القصة وراء هذه الكلمات و اهمية الكلمات, ينبغي ان اعطي القراء قليل من المعلومات الخلفية عن مسكين الدارمي

Miskeen Al Darimi was from the famous pure Arab tribe of Darim. The tribe of Darim is a tribe descended from the well-known Adnani tribe of Tamim .

مسكين الدارمي من قبيلة دارم- القبيلة العربية المحض المشهورة و قبيلة دارم منحدرة من القبيلة العدنانية المعروفة- تميم

Miskeen once proposed to a woman, but she rejected him because of his poorness and his blackness. The woman married another man instead who was richer than Miskeen, but who was from a tribe not as noble and pure as Miskeen's tribe. Miskeen once saw the woman and man together and he stopped and said to them: I am Miskeen-for those who know me! My color is dark-the color of the Arabs! Click here for the full story in Arabic.

خطب مسكين امرءة فرفضته لقلة ماله و سواد لونه. و تزوجت المرأة رجل آخر ذوا مال ولاكن نسبه ليس كمثل نسب مسكين. راى مسكين المرأة و زوجها ذات يوم فقال لهما: انا مسكين لمن يعرفني- لوني السمرة- الوان العرب! اضغط هنا للقصة ااكاملة

This story shows that as long as 14 hundred years ago, Miskeen Al Darimi felt the need to remind people of what a pure Arab looks like. With the large scale mixing of non Arab blood with Arab blood which started during the Islamic conquests, Miskeen apparently saw the danger of people losing knowledge of what the true Arabs looked like. He obviously felt that we might reach a state where the true Arabs were looked upon as not true Arabs and the mixed Arabs were seen as true Arabs. He attempted to save the true Arabs from being lost as a result of ignorance and deceit.

هذه القصة تبين ان قبل اكثر من اربعة عشر قرن شعر مسكين الدارمي بضرورة تذكير الناس بلون العرب الحقيقيين. مع اختلاط الدم العربي مع الدم الاعجمي الذي وقع كثير زمن الفتوحات الاسلامية, خاف مسكين ان تفقد الناس معرفة لون العرب الحقيقيين. يبدو انه خاف ان يصل الامر الى ان ترى العرب الحقيقيون كانهم مختلطون و نرى العرب المختلطون كانهم العرب الحقيقيون. حاول مسكين الدارمي ان ينقذ العرب الحقيقيين من الضياع بسبب الجهل و الخداع.

This is exactly what we at Save the True Arabs aim at doing. Like Miskeen Al Darimi, we aim at letting the world know that the original Arabs were a black-skinned people and that black skin is a sign of purity of Arab blood. Our aim is to remove the dark-skinned Arabs from the background and put them back in the forefront of the Arab world like they once were.

هذا بعينه ما نحن في انقذوا العرب الحقيقيين بصدد فعله. مثل مسكين الدارمي هدفنا ان نحيط الكل علما بان العرب الاصليين كانوا ذووا بشرة سوداء و ان البشرة السوداء كانت دليل على خلاص نسب العربي. هدفنا ان نأخذ العرب ذووا البشرة الداكنة من الوراء و نضعهم في الامام في العالم العربي كما كانوا في الماضي.


One might ask why we are concerning ourselves with the appearance of the original Arabs. The answer is simply because 1.) It's a truth that most people are unaware of and we believe in spreading the truth. 2.) What most people believe now is falsehood and deception and we believe in putting an end to the spread of falsehood and deception. 3.) The dark-skinned Arabs of the past and present are being wronged as long as this falsehood goes unchecked. The dark-skinned, true Arabs have, in effect, been stripped of their true identity. We believe in speaking out for and defending the wronged and oppressed. We at Save the True Arabs believe that what has been done to the true Arabs is an outrage and must not be left unopposed.

Is there ever a time that we should be silent about the truth? Why the silence? If it's proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Arabs of the past described the pure Arabs as black-skinned and kinky-haired, is there any reason we should today allow the pure Arabs to be described any way other than the way they described themselves?

"There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world."

--Thomas Jefferson

Another reason it's important to correct misconceptions about history and the origins and appearances of people is to avert conflicts throughout the world. A prime case in point is the conflict that exists in the Middle East today. Without a doubt if it were common knowledge that the Arabs were/are a black-skinned people, the problem that we now see in the Middle East wouldn't exist at all and all of the deaths and hardships that this problem has caused would have been avoided. Therefore, no one should think that this topic is something unimportant or not worth trying to understand and fix. Neglecting this topic has resulted in many wars and deaths over the years.

Another reason it's very necessary that people understand the importance of knowing the appearance of peoples is to avoid commiting the grave sin of claiming better judgment than Allah (God) and claiming an ability to choose better than Allah (God). This is a form of shirk (associating partners with Allah) and disbelief. Allow me to explain exactly what I mean. The fact that prejudice against dark skin exists in the Arab/Islamic World today is something that cannot be denied by anyone. It's very unfortunate and ironic, but it's an undeniable fact that we must admit. Claiming that it doesn't exist helps no one. There is prejudice against dark skin and there are also people who are not prejudice against dark skin, but who believe in their hearts that light skin is better than dark skin. Allow me to explain how both cases are very dangerous ideas that can make an unbeliever out of a believer. All Muslims believe that humankind is descended from Adam. Muslims also believe what Allah (God) says in the Quran about the creation of our father Adam. Muslims believe that Allah's creation of Adam was a special creation and that Allah (God) didn't simply say "Be" and he was, but He (Allah) created and fashioned our father Adam with His own two hands. Allah chose what to create our father Adam from and what characteristics to give him. Allah says in the Quran that He created our father Adam from black mud.

وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ صَلْصَالٍ مِنْ حَمَإٍ مَسْنُونٍ

"Verily We created man from a black, fermented clay."

As you can see, Allah (God) says that he created our father Adam from black mud. That makes it quite clear what color Adam was. Not only that, but Allah (God) then named our father Adam "Adam", which means black-skinned.

Allah (God) then ordered Iblis (Satan) to bow down to His special creation that He created with His own two hands. However, Iblis (Satan) was arrogant and he refused to bow and said:

قَالَ لَمْ أَكُنْ لِأَسْجُدَ لِبَشَرٍ خَلَقْتَهُ مِنْ صَلْصَالٍ مِنْ حَمَإٍ مَسْنُونٍ

"I refuse to bow down to a man that You created from black, fermented mud."

Iblis (Satan) thought that he was better than our father Adam. This was the first example of prejudice--the first example of comparing and judging. Allah (God) then cursed Iblis (Satan) and expelled him from Paradise. Iblis asked Allah (God) to delay his punishment until the Day of Resurrection and Allah (God) agreed to do so. Iblis then said that he would mislead as many of the children of Adam that he could. One way that he is trying to mislead them is by convincing many of them to dislike the color that Allah (God) chose to create our father Adam. Iblis saw our father Adam and knows what color he was even if many of the children of Adam don't know today. This is why you find this distaste for dark skin today and racial prejudice against dark-skinned people. Iblis (Satan) encourages man to dislike and look down on what Allah chose, hence the distaste for dark skin in the minds, hearts, and on the tongues of many of the children of Adam. It all goes back to Iblis (Satan) and his arrogance and his hatred toward our father Adam and his looking down on our father Adam and his thinking that he knows what is good better than Allah (God). Iblis promised that he would mislead the children of Adam and make them follow his way and this is exactly what he is doing.

Muslims believe that Allah (God) is the best of creators as Allah (God) says in the Quran:

فتبارك‏ ‏الله‏ ‏أحسن‏ ‏الخالقين

"Glory to Allah--the Best of Creators"

And as He also says in the Quran:

ما ‏ترى‏ ‏في‏ ‏خلق‏ ‏الرحمن‏ ‏من‏ ‏تفاوت‏ ‏

"You will find no defects in Allah's creation."

Knowing this and believing this, is it possible for a Muslim who knows that Allah (God) created our father black-skinned to prefer a color over the color that Allah chose? If he/she does so, what does that mean?

Another reason we are raising this awareness of the appearance of the original Arabs is so that it can be clear to all who are prejudice against dark skin and all who look down on dark skin that they are prejudice against and looking down on the Prophet Mohamed's people and family and they are also prejudice against and looking down on other prophets. I have proven on this website that the Arabs were a black-skinned people. All Muslims should also know that the Prophet Moses was black-skinned because the Prophet Mohamed described him as black-skinned. What I am saying here on this website are not things that I have made up. Everything that I am saying is written clearly in the reliable books of the past. The question is, why are people ignoring these things?

more at:

www.savethetruearabs.com

Just a call to order:this topic is about the origin of the ancient inhabitant of the land that we call Arabia.I gathered in this topic evidences from scholars who prove without a shadow of a doubt that the true arabs were and are black people,or african if you will.The goal of this topic in the long run(as the topic of Black Asia) is to bare witness of the teaching of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad that the Black man is the father of humanity,owner of this planet.

Nobody say that you have to convert to islam,nobody say that the arabs are our friends (hell no!),nobody denied the slave trade,it's about TRUTH.I don't concern myself with BELIEFS,im getting tired of you religious people,whether you kemetist,rbgists,muslims,5%,israelite,scientists,a theists, etc...Most of you are religious,whether you like it or not,dogmatism is a disease.Stop quoting scholars like Diop or Clark,these men brought facts,be like them study and start banging on the beast for once ,instead of banging on your brothers!

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A True Description of the Prophet Mohamed's Family (SAWS)

The term Sharif (nobleman) or Sayyid is used to describe a descendant of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) through his daughter Fatima (RAA). They are descendants of Al Hasan and Al Husein- the two sons of Ali ibn Abi Talib (RAA) and Fatima the daughter of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS). The Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) and Ali ibn Abi Talib (RAA) are from the Bani Hashim branch of the tribe of Quraish. They are the noblest of the Arabs. The Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) and Ali ibn Abi Talib (RAA) were first cousins. Ali’s father, Abi Talib, was the brother of the Prophet’s (SAWS) father. Once it has been established that the Bani Hashim were a black-skinned people, there should be no need to prove that the pure Arabs of the past were, in general, a black-skinned people.

In discussing the appearance of the Sharifs, I believe that it is appropriate for me to begin with the father of the Sharifs- Ali ibn Abi Talib (RAA). In his book Tarikh Al-Khulafaa (The History of the Caliphs), Imam Al-Suyuti described Ali ibn Abi Talib as follows:




و كان علي شيخا سمينا أصلع كثير الشعر ربعة إلى القصر عظيم البطن عظيم اللحية جدا قد ملأت ما بين منكبيه بيضاء كأنها قطن آدم شديد الأدمة



Ali was a heavyset, bald, hairy man of average height which leaned toward shortness. He had a large stomach and a large beard which filled all that was between his shoulders. His beard was white as if it was cotton and he was a black-skinned man.

There are certain names that we usually hear when the Sharifs or Sayyids - the family of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) are mentioned. We have all probably heard of Ali Zein Al-Abidin the son of ِAl-Husein the son of Ali the son of Abu Talib. Though his mother was Persian, he is described as dark-skinned. Where did he get his dark complexion from? From his father's side of the family, of course. This Ali Zein Al-Abidin the son of ِAl-Husein the son of Ali the son of Abu Talib married Fatima the daughter of Al-Hasan the son of Ali the son of Abi Talib.

Mohamed Al-Baqir- another name we hear when there is mention of the Sharifs, the family of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) - was the eldest son of Ali Zein Al-Abidin and Fatima the daughter of Al-Hasan. He was nicknamed "He Who Resembles" because he looked so much like the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS). He was described as dark-skinned, kinky-haired, and of average height. Mohamed Al-Baqir married Umm Farwa, the great granddaughter of Abu Bakr Al-Saddiq and they had Jaafar Al-Saadiq. Jaafar Al-Saadiq is another name frequently heard when speaking of the family of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS). He was described as black-skinned, kinky-haired, and average height.

Jaafar Al-Saadiq had a Berber slave-girl named Humaida and through her he had his son Musa Al-Kadhim - another well-known member of the family of the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) whom many Sharifs claim descent from. Musa Al-Kadhim was described as very black-skinned.

more at:

http://savethetruearabs.blogspot.com/2009/08/true-description-of-prophet-mohameds_26.html
 

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