(SAMURAI36) - A Shems is an initate. A Shemsu is a body or class of Initiates. A Shemset is a female initiate. And Ashem is a Sage. My Brother(who created this very thread)'s name is 'SHEMSI ENTEHUTI" which means "He who walks the path of Wisdom". When we say "Shem-Hotepu", it means "walk the path of Peace". In the Pert, we find the phrase: "Shemsu-Heru", which means "followers of the Path of Ascension" (a Priesthood of Heru). Thus, "TA" means "land of" and Shem meaning intiates, or followers.....It's not hard to piece together what this term means....But it is far from an ethnic one. PEACE i see the meanings of "shem" and "shemsu" that you speak of. however, from the glyphs that i see, "ta shemau" is land of the south. i can't even disagree with you here because without question you could write "ta shems" or "ta shemsu" to mean "land of the initiated"; but it depends on the glyphs that you use.