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Brother AACOOLDRE : The Five loaves and Two Fishes Parable

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    The Five loaves and two Fishes Parable
    By Andre Austin

    First you must understand that Jesus didn’t live during the time of Herod the great or Pontus Pilate. So any statements being made were not true statements. In other essays I prove that the parable of the “Ten virgins” were Egyptian in origin. What you think are Christian parable are Egyptian parables. And I shall line up the Christian text along side Egyptian hieroglyphics to prove my case.

    By accident I discovered Jesus parable of the five loaves and two fish came directly out of temples of Egypt’s theological schools.

    “And when he had taken the five loaves and
    The two Fishes, he looked up to Heaven, and
    Blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them
    To his disciples to set before them; and the two
    Fishes divided he among them all.

    And they did all eat, and were filled

    And they took up 12 baskets full of the
    Fragments, and of the fishes

    And they that did eat of the loaves were
    About five thousand men.

    And straightway he constrained his
    Disciples to get into the ship, and to
    The other side…

    And he saw them toiling in rowing.

    See St Mark 6:41-47

    This parable is clearly an allusion to concepts thought in Egypt of their Heaven and hell. If you read E.A Wallis Budge book The Egyptian Heaven and Hell. Go to the Sixth division of the Taut. There is an interesting scene that deals with the harvest in the kingdom of Osiris.

    1. “Five upright male figures, each of whom holds a large loaf of bread, with both hands on his head; when the scene was complete these figures were 12 in number.
    2. Also remember that the boat (ship) of RA having passed through the fifth division of the Taut arrives at the sixth division.
    3. The 12 disciples of Jesus are actually the 12 helpers/Sailors of RA.
    4. Behind the balance scales is a boat. And light is produce by the Truth of a heart that’s on these balance scales. In other words all righteous, truthful hearts are transformed into the “Shining Ones”. Mark would have Jesus shine at a transfiguration 3 chapters after his boat ride and miracle of multiplying five loaves of bread into 12 baskets. Its strange five would produce 12 in the Egyptian texts and talk about a boat ride too.
    5. The story about the two fishes was really talking about something else. “In the Egyptian Book of the Dead two mythological fish are mentioned. These fish were supposed to swim, one side on each side of the bows of the boat of the Sun-god RA, and to drive away every evil being or thing in the waters which had mind to attack it” See The Gods of The Egyptians Volume 2 p 383 By E.A Wallis Budge.
    6. Now Mark tells us first that Jesus ship had to go to another side 6:45. Mark would also tell us that there was some trouble with the wind see 6:48. Jesus would take control of this ship that was apparently rocking by strong wind.
    7. During the travels of the Egyptian boat there are several allusions to god granting special powers to the deceased to enable them to “snuff the air and to have dominion over the waters” Ibid, p 106. Apparently stops would be made near a tree for shade and to refresh self with food Ibid, p107. This is the exact equvalivent of the Tree of life in the Bible that near the River of life Rev 22: 2-5. Where you would be able to eat fruit.The analogies and parallels are too significant to ignore.

    More and more evidence is spring out to confirm that the four Gospels were original written in Egypt from their texts probably near the famous Library of Alexandra. When will the world admit that Christianity was conceived in the minds and imaginations of Black Egyptians? Probably when racism ends and the far right stop equating Western civilization with the survival of Christianity. Which is a dangerous concept because this is equating a state religion. The far right will use this illogic to assume any threats to Christianity as a threat to the USA. People like Pat Buchanan assume this position in his book. Anybody seen spreading to many seeds of doctrines contrary to Christianity will be dealt with.
     
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    loaves and fishes

    As hashish (when I was young) It was highly compressed. a miniscule particle heated and moved with the fingers it would expand to a "BOOUYAH" hit. Could it have been the same technoligy that fed the multitude?:eek:
     
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    Then said he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few. Pray ye, therefore, the Lord of the harvest that he send forth labourers into his harvest. And he called unto him his twelve disciples." Now, if we turn to the Egyptian "Book of Hades," the harvest, the Lord of the harvest, and the reapers of the harvest are all portrayed: the twelve are also there. In one scene they are preceded by a God leaning on a staff, who is designated the Master of Joy--a surname of the Messiah Horus when assimilated to the Soli-Lunar Khunsu; the twelve are "they who labour at the harvest in the plains of Neter-Kar." A bearer of a sickle shows the inscription: "These are the Reapers." The twelve are divided into two groups of five and seven--the original seven of the Aahenru; these seven are the reapers. The other five are bending towards an enormous ear of corn, the image of the harvest, ripe and ready for the sickles of the seven. The total twelve are called the "Happy Ones," the bearers of food. Another title of the twelve is that of the "Just Ones." The God says to the reapers, "Take your sickles! Reap your grain! Honour to you, reapers." Offerings are made to them on earth, as bearers of sickles in the fields of Hades. On the other hand, the tares or the wicked are to be cast out and destroyed for ever. These twelve are the apostles in their Egyptian phase.
    In the chapters on "Celestial Diet" in the Ritual, Osiris eats under the sycamore tree of Hathor. He says, "Let him come from the earth. Thou hast brought these seven loaves for me to live by, bringing the bread that Horus (the Christ) makes. Thou hast placed, thou hast eaten rations. Let him call to the Gods for them, or the Gods come with them to him."
    This is reproduced as miracle in the Gospels, performed when the multitude were fed upon seven loaves. The seven loaves are found here, together with the calling upon the Gods, or working the miracle of multiplying the bread.
    In the next chapter there is a scene of eating and drinking. The speaker, who impersonates the Lord, says:--"I am the Lord of Bread in Annu. My bread at the heaven was that of Ra; my bread on earth was that of Seb." The seven loaves represent the bread of Ra. Elsewhere the number prescribed to be set on one table, as an offering, is five loaves. these are also carried on the heads of five different persons in the scenes of the under-world. Five loaves are the bread
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    of Seb. Thus five loaves represent the bread of earth, and seven the bread of heaven. Both five and seven are sacred regulation numbers in the Egyptian Ritual. And in the Gospel of Matthew the miracles are wrought with five loaves in the one case, and seven in the other, when the multitudes are fed on celestial diet. This will explain the two different numbers in one and the same Gospel miracle. In the Canonical narrative there is a lad with five barley loaves and two fishes. In the next chapter of the Ritual we possibly meet with the lad himself, as the miracle-worker says:--"I have given breath to the said youth."
    The Gnostics asserted truly that celestial persons and celestial scenes had been transferred to earth in our Gospels; and it is only within the Pleroma (the heaven) or in the Zodiac that we can at times identify the originals of both. And it is there we must look for the "two fishes."
    As the latest form of the Manifestor was in the heaven of the twelve signs, that probably determined the number of twelve basketsful of food remaining when the multitude had all been fed. "They that ate the loaves were five thousand men;" and five thousand was the exact number of the Celestials or Gods in the Assyrian Paradise, before the revolt and fall from heaven. The scene of the miracle of the loaves and fishes is followed by an attempt to take Jesus by force, but he withdraws himself; and this is succeeded by the miracle of his walking on the waters, and conquering the wind and waves. So is it in the Ritual. Chap. 57 is that of the breath prevailing over the water in Hades. The speaker, having to cross over, says: "O Hapi! let the Osiris prevail over the waters, like as the Osiris prevailed against the taking by stealth, the night of the great struggle." The Solar God was betrayed to his death by the Egyptian Judas, on the "night of the taking by stealth," which was the night of the last supper. The God is "waylaid by the conspirators, who have watched very much." They are said to smell him out "by the eating of his bread." So the Christ is waylaid by Judas, who "knew the place, for Jesus often resorted thither," and by the Jews who had long watched to take him.
     
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    There is an issue here that hasn't been addressed. Actually two. One is the issue of time. I have read some of the book that you speak of. But they fail to put things into perspective based on time. And also, during the time of Christ, Egypt's religous beliefs were tested and influenced by the teachings of Christ. During his life and after his death through the ministry of Paul and the other disciples. I have heard and read a lot about the four gospels being concieved in Egypt. But no one has yet to put it all into context based on time. If you are going to make statements of that magnitude then some cross-referencing should in fact be made. Not only should the Egyptian texts be studied but also the latin and greek manuscripts as well. And if you are going to determine who first concieved what, then time, must be brought into play. But even still, time cannot be used as accurately because the gospels were written after Jesus' death. And they were originally written in Hebrew.

    If the claim that the gospels were originally concieved in Egypt is true, then how do you explain the similarities between Egypts religious beliefs and those in many of the Asian Countries. Egyptian mystisim was not exposed to them until thousands of years later.

    When you look at the major religions that has arised throughout the world, Christianity itself is the only one that hasn't been influenced by the others. There is evidence that the others have in fact been influenced by, and borrowed a lot from Christianity. For me personally, I believe that Egypt, was influenced by christianity, and that they adapted it to their purposes.

    The fact that Christianity is a black founded religion is evident even in the Bible. The original hebrews, like many of the jews were, people of dark complexion with wooly hair. But many historians choose to overlook that fact. Along with the fact that many of the hebrews and jews engaged in interacial marriages with people of a lighter complexion. So the original bloodline was diluted and dispersed. But I'm moving too far away from the subject.

    The fact is many cultures have borrowed from christianity and have used or taken a lot of it's original precepts out of context and altered them to suit their purposes. The easiest and most notable example today is the Book of Morman, which is the white man's bible written exclusively for and by him. I wish I still had it here with me to use some quotes from it but since I have moved to California a lot of my books and other things have not made the transition from Gerogia to the West.

    I thank you for posting this topic it has brought a lot of things to the surface of my thoughts again, that I had forgotten and pushed to the back of my mind. Plus, I take this as a sign that I need to restart me research.

    I hope I did not open the door to confusion. I'm short on time at the moment but I will readdress this topic.

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