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Pan Africanism : Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians - African Americans Abstract:

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  1. ru2religious

    ru2religious Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature

    "We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites... Long bone stature regression equations were then derived for each sex. Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites, proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical... Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks...brachial indices are definitely more ‘African’... There is no evidence for significant variation in proportions among temporal or social groupings; thus, the new formula may be broadly applicable to ancient Egyptian remains." ("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-5)"

    This study is such a powerful study and I would like to get some insight into it from our forum scholars. Such research which compare African American and that of the Egyptian are not identical but we are closer in body proportions then Europeans. And what's even more amazing is that the Intralimb indices are NOT significantly different between African American and the ancient Egyptians.


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    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I have one question. WHICH "Ancient Egyptians". I sk this because according to E.A. Wallace Budge the Ancient "Egyptians" classified Four Races of Men.

    Most studies today say the Copts are the "indigenous race" of Ancient Egypt.

    This leads me to make the following statement which can not be proven or unproved.

    We (Africans in the Americas) are "incarnated" beings from the 18th Dynasty of Kemet.

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    Pyree was from the Sub Sahara. That was the "pharoah' they put on the copy of National Geographic that was titled " Black Pharoahs" or " Black Egypt", also at the time of the movie " The Scorpion King", a special was done on history channel called "The Real Scorpion King". It was narrated by a white person. They identified Mhotep as being someone from Central or East Africa. Many groups made their way up the Nile River into Egypt. There is also dry river bed that runs from the southern part of the Nile all the way to West Africa. It's dry and not put on most maps nowadays similar to a dry lake. Africans would have just simply followed the water East, some would have even built boats and just rode with the tide. But later Egypt was invaded an conquered by Mediteranean Peoples, Phoenicians, Assyrians, and Greeks. Most notibly Alexander. But if you need a biblical reference, read the very short book called The Song Of Soloman. Shulamitte, who was one of the "pharoah's" daughter had a sexual relationship with Soloman. In this book of the OT, both he and her make continuos references to her "dark" skin and "swarthiness" also her curves. Chpt 1 v 5 she calls herself a "black girl"(new world translation) other versions say "dark and lovely"
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    From my understanding this study was taken based on the Lower ancient Egyptians - the place where Eurocentric scholars are trying to say was mixed. Yes the Copts are considered to be the closest relative but if I'm not mistaken that based primarily on Language because of its close affiliation to the Hieroglyphic language.

    There might be genetic studies out there which would connect the modern copts with the ancient but Hasass band the genetic studies program on the Mummies so it hard to really tell - what they do know is that the mummies were filled with high concentrations of melanin which only black people can have. The scientific community is now aware of the fact that they were Africans - black Africans - but I think they don't want to do the genetic research on the mummies because they fear what they might find out in terms of who are their actual closest relatives. I find it interesting that such test as posted above with African American and the ancient Egyptians should be made especially given the fact that they hate Afrocentrism so much - why involve us who is is the furthest away from Egypt geographically?

    Well it could be like the old Dogon master said, "my people come from the land presently called Greece" (paraphrased) which is why some ignorant Europeans said they were white at first and then turned black lol. If the ancient Ionia and Etruscans which the Dogon's set claim on is black:

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    Then its not far fetched that the ancient Egyptian made it to West, Central and South Africa. The fear is that we just might have some connection to the ancient Egyptians After all. This include tribes from Nigeria, Senegal, Angola, Benin, Ghana, etc ... and all those in the Diaspora.

    As far as being incarnated - o definitely!!!! its in our genetics


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  5. hartwell

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    You are on to something here.

    Excerpt from the book GOD WILLS THE NEGRO; An anthropological and geographical restoration of the lost history of the American Negro people : being in part a theological interpretation ... a special chapter of eight Negro spirituals

    "The lines of demarcation are merely those of time, place and generation. Of course, the speech, the manners and their fundamental cultural patterns the American blacks and the Ancient Egyptians are the same."


    This book was written in 1939 by Theodore P Ford after two years the United States government confiscated rest of the copies. I found it online in open library very interesting read to say the least.


    http://www.worldcat.org/title/god-w...4208748d987fb0221056ec&linktype=digitalObject

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