where i live most black cultural and spiritual events are not open to white people. a black person married to a white would not be welcomed.
But again, is that justified? If the White guy/girl is a descent person, obviously not racist per definition (otherwise he wouldn't be marrying a person who belongs to a race he doesn't like), why is (s)he still not welcomed ?
how is it that you have the position of the defender of the white man? let us go to the numbers. are there really large numbers of white men who are laying around depressed because they are unfairly blocked from black women? shall the white man have access to everything? blacks can hold nothing precious? i have stated that the SYSTEM of WHITE SUPREMACY is owned and operated for the benefit of white people. this white guy has an entire system that is set up to benefit him. how is it that you equate him with a black person? rather than go after black women why doesn't he overturn the system? how many white guys are we talking about here? the masses of white people? i don't think so. in your mind ONE good white guy is enough to overturn all black progress. i do not see it that way.
no white people allowed you say that you are congolese. are you telling me that there are NO rituals from your people? your culture has no private rituals? i am in the US and we have rituals that are for black people. they are not for white people. i will not argue if it is justified. it is what it is. a black married to a white would be divorced from a part of their culture. each instance weakens our culture. it dilutes our solidarity. rather than working together we sit on the internet challenging each other. it is divide and conquer. it sets black people against each other. it divides loyalties. it weakens our bloodline. it exposes us to european diseases. but most of all it makes us unable to stand firm and united against white oppression. my mother abandoned me. she later married a white man and abandoned the rest of her family. she left us. i duly note your tender words for her and not for her child or her family. this shows that you are not open minded and are predisposed to sympathy for white people. black people are a minority in the US. what will happen if we each marry a white person? what happens to the black race? we would be absorbed and eliminated as a culture. what is your plan to achieve justice for black people while preventing any "injustice" toward white people?
The position of the defender of the White man? I don’t defend “the White man” because I don’t defend Whites as a whole. If I said I defended innocents who have been incarcerated for a crime they did not commit, would it equal defending “The Prisoner”? No. I never said that one good White guy is enough to put an end to racism.You were saying that a Black/White relationship would never work because all White people are racists. All I did was stating that this is not the case. Going after Black women? Overturning the system? What is the link between the two? If a White guy loves a Black woman, should he give up all the feelings he has for her, no matter how hard it is, because White countries are stealing the riches of Black African countries? How would this make sense at all if he respects Black people and considers them as equal to him? I am not equating a Black person to a White one in every aspect, I said that a Black and a White middle-/higher class person living in a White country are both enjoying stolen African goods they shouldn’t be entitled to. Btw, what would you say about a mixed, half-White, half-Black person in the same situation? This argument was already flawed at the very beginning anyway since you don’t have to be a member of an organization to be an anti-racist. You are a man, thus you’re not victim of the sexism women face, but I suppose you are not a member of a feminist organization, does it make you a misoginist, yes or no? This is the same thing. We won’t dismantle the system in the blink of an eye, we have to change the mentality of the population first. This means, destroying the actual racist idea that “White” is the standard, the reference. Debating with White supremacists and proving them wrong is already a good way to do that. And you don’t have to be member of an organization to do that. Hence “Being a White person who's not member of an organization (BUT defending Blacks and considering them as you equals)” =/= “being racist anyway”. I was only replying to the bolded part in the quote, the one about marriage, not the rituals. Though, if a White guy wanted to take part in one of our rituals, I wouldn’t be against it. In fact, I would find it pretty flattering that non-Congolese people (whether they’re White, Asian, or whatever other race there is) are interested in my culture at some point they want me to share a part of it with them. But that’s just me. I don’t see how marrying a person from another race equals divorcing from a part of your culture. You can be married to a White guy and still take part of the rituals of your culture, respect the values and norms of your culture, follow the customs and practices of your culture, talk the language of your people, etc… If your White partner doesn’t agree with some components of your culture, he probably won’t get married to you in the first place. Interracial couples obviously discuss these things before marrying. The solidarity with your race won’t necessarily disappear either, having a White husband/wife doesn’t make you any “less Black”. Remember, these words were only valid if you were the ones who abandoned her. Apparently, it was the other way around so you can just forget them. I have sympathy for those who are right. It is wrong for a mother to abandon her children. This does not equal being closed-minded. Though, you think she wouldn’t have abandoned you if the man she had married had been Black? You said she abandoned you first and married him later, so logically, the marriage is not the reason why she abandoned you, right? Don’t accuse me of “having more sympathy for Whites” again because of this reasoning. This is not sympathy. This is logic. I doubt this will ever happen (there will always be Blacks falling for Blacks), but if it does, there would be more mixed children. What, that’s a bad thing too? You don’t have to be African at 100% to keep following the African culture. Whether the culture will be transmitted to the children or get lost all depends on the way the parents will raise them. The only thing I don’t like is Black people acting as if White people are their enemies and vice-versa. By incriminating all Whites (calling them all racists and bad people), we do nothing but segregating ourselves, treating ourselves as if we were so different it’d be impossible for us to get along. We are not achieving anything by forming our own “all Black collectivist society, no Whites allowed!!”. In fact, we end up sounding like those White Nationalists who think all Blacks are ugly criminals who should either “go back to Africa, were they belong” or have their own independent nation so that they’d “finally stop rendering White people’s bloodline impure”. I am not saying that Blacks should absolutely marry Whites, I am saying that oppressing our own race will get us nowhere. I am saying that Blacks should be free to do what they want as long as they don’t hurt themselves or anyone else, this means, I won’t necessarily encourage my daughter of dating White kids, but if she happens to fall for a White guy who is sane, not racist, educated and won’t cause her any harm, I will not cause her unnecessary pain by forcing her to break up just because the guy happens to be White.