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Black Entertainment : Sam Cooke

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    Peace,

    What does anyone in the Family know of Sam Cooke's death? Last I heard his Business Manager set him up. Anyone know of any further details?

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    His close friend Solomon Burke believes it was a conspiracy.

    Otis Redding's death **** sure was
     
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    Well let me explain this and we'll see how much of a 'conspiracy' it truly is...

    To my understanding, Sam Cooke was a very great artist. Having said that it comes as no surprise that he'd draw not just many fans, but most definitely many women. He had a habit of "seeing" women left and right. Not only that but he also wore fine clothes and actually had a red ferrari on the night of his death.

    Along with the above-mentioned, Sam was very close to Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam. Word has it that he attended the mosque despite proclaiming Christianity. Of course he did not mention any of this because of the controversy that would have occurred, but that seems to be the case.

    Now as far as his death, here are the two scenarios. Despite the fact that the former makes alot of sense, I personally have a strong feeling the latter is what really happened.

    SCENARIO #1

    Sam Cooke went to a bar. He met a Eurasian woman by the name of Lisa Boyer who was later found to be a hooker. Some other man at the bar started trying to talk to Lisa and Sam seen that, so he approached the dude and got into an argument with him. After the argument as heated (and reportedly drunk) as Sam was, he grabbed Lisa, got in his Ferrari and left the bar to drive uptown to a very cheap $3 a night motel (Hacienda Motel) on Figueroa Street in L.A. When they got there and got into a room, Sam took Boyer's clothes off and started to take his own clothes off. She went into the bathroom in the room then came back out. However when Sam went into the bathroom after her, she reportedly grabbed both of their clothes and jetted out the room. When Sam went chasing her, she was said to have only been wearing a sport jacket and a sock with nothing else on. He went to the Front Office of the motel and no one was there, so he barged into the Manager's Office where he seen the motel clerk and asking "where's the woman I came her with?" He thought the woman would be hiding in there so he kept searching and eventually grabbed the hotel clerk aggressively demanding that she tell him where the woman is, and that is when she picked up her .22 and shot him 3 times.

    SCENARIO #2


    Sam Cooke met up with Lisa Boyer, a hooker, and went to the Hacienda Motel for a meeting. Around this time Sam Cooke wanted to fire his Business Manager, Allen Klein (the same guy who is reportedly responsible for breaking up the Beatles and Rolling Stones) for bad business, plus the fact that Sam wanted to have his own label (even though many black musicians at the time didn't own their own businesses). He was also on the verge of divorcing his wife, Barbara Cooke, for having an affair with Bobby Womack. The meeting turned out to be a "session" where Sam met with Allen Klein to discuss "business." This is also a good time to mention that Allen Klein was there at the motel with a mob and it is said that Barbara was at the scene as well. When the meeting did not go the way his manager wanted it to go, the mob severely beat Sam to death then shot him.

    After Cooke's death, Allen Klein took control of all of Sam's earnings, recordings, profits from businesses and organizations, decision-making regarding Sam's work; all of it. I do need to mention, however, that this was Barbara Cooke's decision.

    As I close, the 2 reasons why I feel SCENARIO #2 was the case:
    1) Allen Klein's name is also implicated in the deaths of John Lennon and another artist (forgot the name)

    2) Someone close to Cooke was at the funeral and said Sam's face at the funeral looked nothing, nothing like someone who was shot 3 times then passed away (as was the case in SCENARIO #1). It definitely looked as though someone beat him to death.

    I posted the thread and asked because although I checked out a few sources (which i'll list at the end of the post) it would be great to get more info.

    Peace!

    Sources:
    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/celebrity/sam_cooke/index.html
    http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/c/Sam Cooke/sam_cooke.htm

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    Yes indeed! If i'm not mistaken I think Otis' death was via plane sabotage? That is very much the work of Federal Government in connection with mobs.

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    Bertha Franklin and Elisa Boyer were scrutinized in the death. But as one newspaper account put it, "The police said the stories told by the women were substantiated by lie-detector tests." The coroner held a hearing five days after the slaying, presenting evidence to seven jurors
    Boyer retold her story: She met Cooke in a bar and left with him, expecting to be taken home. Instead, he drove to the motel and "dragged me into that room."
    Likewise, Franklin reprised her account of the confrontation with Cooke. Motel owner Carr and two guests at the Hacienda added insignificant details.
    It could be an conspiracy of the detales told or a false tale put together , but Sam was known for his likely to women.
    But on January 11, 1965, exactly a month after Cooke was shot, Boyer was arrested for prostitution at a Hollywood motel after agreeing by phone to have sex with an undercover cop for $40.
    A Star Is Dead
    Evelyn Carr, the motel owner, was an earwitness to the shooting. She listened in as Franklin put down the phone and went to the door to deal with the drunken man.
    After hearing the shots, Carr hung up and phoned police at about 3:15 a.m. "I think she shot him," Carr said.
    Seven minutes earlier, police had received a call from Elisa Boyer from a phone booth a block from the motel. Boyer reported she had been kidnapped.

    She said she escaped in her underwear and stopped in a stairwell to dress.
    Cooke apparently got aggressive as he stripped Boyer to her underwear.
    "I started talking very loudly: 'Please, take me home,'" Boyer later told police. "He pinned me on the bed. He kept saying, 'We're just going to talk.'...He pulled my sweater off and ripped my dress...I knew he was going to rape me."
    Boyer went into the bathroom. She said she planned to climb out the window, but it was locked.
    Cooke barged in on her, she said, and, after another round of groping, she left the bathroom while the singer relieved himself.
    When Cooke emerged moments later, Boyer was gone—along with his wallet and most of his clothing.
    Cooke, dressed only in a sports jacket and shoes, jumped in his car and sped around to the front of the motel to try to find her. In his drunken rage, he assumed she had gone back to the office.
    Cooke pounded on the locked glass door, bellowing, "Where's the girl?"
    Franklin, who happened to be on the phone with the motel owner, went to the door and said she didn't know.
    He just kept saying, 'Where's the girl,'" Franklin later recounted. "I told him to get the police if he wanted to search my place. He said, '**** the police.'"


    Cooke kicked his way through the door, seizing Franklin by the arms. He was a fit 33-year-old, and she was heavyset and 55.
    "We got in a tussle," the woman told police. "We fell to the floor. I tried to bite him through that jacket."
    Franklin broke free and fetched the .22 pistol she kept on hand. She pointed it at the intruder and squeezed the trigger three times. One of the shots pierced Sam Cooke's heart.
    "Lady, you shot me!" he cried out—seemingly more out of surprise than pain.
    When Cooke didn't succumb immediately, Franklin proceeded to beat him with a broom handle.
     
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    [​IMG]woman who shot and beat cooke with a broom namely Bertha Franklin she was 55yrs. old

    [​IMG]Cooke dead on the floor half dressed

    [​IMG]woman Cooke was with in the room namely Elisa Boyer was later arrested for prostitution
     
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    Thank you brothers Kwabena and Rich

    this is the kind of information about contemporary Black history that we all need and the information is appreciated, and our youth today , ned to especially know about the
    opression of Black Original Music, and the fear of the power of our music

    :toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast:
     
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    Yeah well actually, there are many other Assassinations that were performed and also covered up - Bob Marley, Tupac, Biggie, and Jimi Hendrix just to name a few.

    As far as Sam Cooke is concerned, his nephew wrote a book entitled Our Uncle Sam (http://www.ourunclesam.com/) where he lays it all out.

    You may also check out the "controversial" work The FBI War On Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders: U.S. Intelligence's Murderous Targeting of Tupac, MLK, Malcolm, Panthers, Hendrix, Marley, Rappers & Linked Ethnic Leftists available on Amazon.com. These works give great insight behind exactly what happened with some of our greatest revolutionaries, behind the "cover-up" stories currently used today in reference to their deaths.

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