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    panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Sister Akilah, I'll answer the question:

    Other racial minorities are unaware of the depth & impact of racism, because with very few exceptionsthey have not been exposed to it. Although there were a handful of Chinese, Japanese, and Latino (mostly Mexican & Puerto Rican) immigrants that worked on railroads in the western US, and performed menial labor in other areas of the country. The overwhelming majority of the "other" brown & yellow minorities in the United States came in the 1970s. This includes Asians, Asian-Indians, Latinos, and Arabs. Can anyone who came to the US when discrimination was no longer legal: prior to Jim Crow (US apartheid); prior the race riots of the 20th century such as red summer, rosewood, black wallstreet, or the Jack Johnson victories; prior to slavery...can anyone who came here after these events understand the depth of US racism (white racism)? Can anyone who has not read the newspaper editorials & debates on whether or not a certain people (black) are human, witnessed the lynchings of soldiers who fought for thier country (blacks in WWI & II), seen the rape of their great-great grandmothers carry down from generation to generation through the skin of their descendants understand how racism has affected the group it was mostly directed at (black people)? How can people who have been in this country for roughly 40 years attempt to tell a people that have been in this country for 400 years (all but 40 of these years spent in slavery & apartheid) about the effects of racism? Indeed, what could cause one group to be so ignorant about another's experiences (both past & present)? I know what can do this: The media and an educational system, which does an inadequate job of telling US history! Those in power shape the images that people see. White corporate media in their attempts to overturn the sympathy and advances of the Civil Rights movement have attacked the image of the subject of US racism. Words like "PC', the "race card", and "reverse discrimination" seek to portray blacks as taking advantage of the system (the white man's generousity). Sinoping you came to this site claiming to believe that blacks are unfairly/untruthfully represented in the media. There is no greater example than this. I can assure you that blacks are the subject of white racism, they in no way "benefit" from it
     
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    Very well stated Brother PanAfrica and straight on point. For some reason we are the only ones as a people who try to accomodate everyone else for the sake of getting along and being part of...and yet when we come among ourselves to do and be among ourselves, we are somehow made to feel guilty about doing so in the face of everyone else already having done so.
     
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    Amen...

    Back in the day, I used to question the need for Miss Black America pagents, Black Greek organizations, HBCU's, Jack & Jill Club, Upper income Black majority neighborhoods, Private Black Primary schools, and the like... I considered them segregational and thought that desegregation was the only way to gain true racial equality. But as I've gotten older I now see the mistake we have made...EVERYTHING has gone down hill since desegregation :crying:

    Much...
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    Akilah :spinstar:
     
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    The Bottomline

    The racists of this country has willfully changed the intended meaning of the word to purposely confuse the real and obvious issue. Let me break it down. The way I've always been taught is biggotry or prejudice is the unsubstantiated negative opinion from a single group about a race or religious group of people. Racism on the other hand is the ability to have negative impact on the quality of life for a race based upon unsubstantiated opinions. So we see thoughts and maybe words in one case and actions that change lives in another. So this raises the question, can a biggot practices discrimenation? To a small degree they can but no where near that of a racist. So the question is can non-whites be racists? Sure, in their own country maybe but in America, no. Though a non-white person can murder or mistreat a white person in the right circumstances, a white person has recourse and the non-white will be brought to justice for their transgressions. This can not be said about white people. Historically the white establishment has imposed it's will upon non-white person in America unbridled. Here are some examples. Are all members of the Ku Klux Klan racists? No, all members of the Ku Klux Klan are biggots but ones in authority are racists. i.e. the Mayor, the Sherriff, the Judge of the Court, etc. Does the Nation of Islam discrimenate against whites? Maybe but they practice separatism or "Black Nationalism" not racism. What's the difference between a separatist and a racists? Again the actions. Separatists exclude or segregate themselve from other causing no one harm, racists impose their will effecting lives negatively. By no means am I an expert in the field of race relations in America but I'm sure many share my opinion.

    Peace

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    hmmm, a white miss jamaican. i don't know. I have seen jamaica chinese people, and jamaica white people, as my fam calls them, so i guess it was not a deal to them...

    yeah i always wondered, I believe a few people elaborated on it, why we are meant to feel guilty about the way we act. I even admit, that i sometimes used to curb my attitude in certain surroundings, as if trying to hide something. It seems like we're the race that seems to have to prove themselves. We have to prove we can work up to and more than a white person, we have to prove that we can qualify for a job, we gotta prove that we can succeed period, despite the obvious things against us, which is color, and our social status. I think they both coincide. Not only our their racists against us...there are oppressors. Being racist is one thing, but oppressors have the power to literally prevent anyone from moving up from where they are, based on the usual. (color, ethnicity, etc.)

    one thing i have told myself is that i would not bog down to those peoples level. I have watched KKK documentaries, up to ones about the n-word, and all of it is both mind boggling, and frustrating, to see that we are so tied down to so many things. I think anyone one else that i have the utmost sympathy for is Native Americans. They are about 2% of our poplulation. I hope someone could prove me wrong...but then again, do they have the black man's hardships?

    Racism, ughh it's like permanent residue on my soap.
     
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    Everyday more black people are starting to feel like this!
     
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    Yes brother Radical Faith, many do share your opinion. Well said!
     
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