Group Think : Overcoming Self-Hate Part II

Discussion in 'Group Think Project-Group' started by phynxofkemet, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. excel10k Banned

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Message Count:
    678
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is exactly my point, Rich. There are multiple cases of this very thing in response to several points I have made here. Rather than addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against my claim or even FOR THEIR claim, they hurl accusations of "self-hate". The process of proving their claim or disproving mine is thereby subverted. The smoke screen is then deployed to change the subject to a discussion about personal choices I, as a full grown man, have made, which are completely irrelevent to the subject at hand.

    So, here we are with a larger smoke screen to deem the "problem of self-hate" as "overwhelming". So complex is this supposed problem of self-hate, that it requires "all hands on deck". As far as I know, the only form of "self-hate" I have seen addressed is the freedom to oppose the self-appointed CoBC. To my knowledge, there has been no real attempt at all by the self-appointed CoBC to address REAL SELF-HATE, the type that is destructive to the individual and the collective community. To be clear, specific examples would include failure to embrace education, men abandoning their responsibility to their children, and black men taking the lives of 6,400 black men each year (17 per day).

    I can hardly wait to see what the self-appointed CoBC decides after this "serious attempt at drawing up a plan to help identify self-hate".
    • STAFF
    • PREMIUM MEMBER

    $$RICH$$ Administrator

    Member Since:
    Mar 21, 2001
    Message Count:
    69,095
    Likes Received:
    3,584
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Da~WINDY*CITY //CHICAGO
    because as I said, from all I can tell the self-appointed "Council on Black Correctness" is trying to attack, criticized, diagnose, and medicate the freedom of Choice of grown black men and women. Brothers and Sisters, be it known, WE ARE NO LONGER SLAVES, but FREE.....which includes FREEDOM TO DIFFER IN OPINIONS OF WHAT IS RIGHT OR DESIRABLE FOR ONES SELF.

    This so call self appointed council of black correctness I'm not even clear on
    who are these very ones you speak of that attack and infect the responses of
    anothers choice ? who are they ?

    but whether we needed one on "Overcoming" "Self-hatred"

    Again i say No because it's a freedom of choices made by individuals themselves, it is clear that
    everyone process in their own thinking yet we still a global oneness as a community
    and no one
    speaks for the whole collectively.

    your choice to love and marry whomever is your freedom of choice and no it's not a symptom of self hate , but your free will which you choose.

    As i said before we all have different views how we see another this thinking will not change it's like a program set in today's living / society

    We have to start looking outside the black box of mental thinking and agree to accept the choices of our brothers and sisters
    which is there choices to do so as an individual, so collectively we need to respect anothers chioce
    even if we don't agree as individuals

    self hate is avoidant of a personality disorder.
  2. Astrologer4U New Member

    Member Since:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Message Count:
    3,298
    Likes Received:
    478
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    California
    excel10K, you seem to be hell bent on people giving a hoot about who you are married to. Please understand that I for one do not care that your wife is white. My problem with you is, I feel that your opinion about the black community, and self destructive behavior is bias because you don't live in the black community and your family is not fully made up of blacks. By choice your family is nut fully black I might add...

    Therefore, you opinions about self destructive behavior in the black community based on what you perceive as a black family, to me, is bias.

    You don't have to go around telling people that your wife is white but when the question was first asked to you, "Is your wife white" you made up excuses for why you would not answer that question, you even turned against sky763 who went out of his way to befriend you, when she or he asked you the question as well. It was only after Truthtothecause so cleverly manipulated you into answering the question, that you saw already that you had been busted and you had no choice, so you answered the question yes, your wife is white.

    Not to mention how you took down the link in your profile which Sky 763 was able to capture before you took it down, and that is where he saw a picture of your family for which he posted for all to see for themselves.

    That whole shenanigans made you really look bias and also made you look as though you were aware, that you are bias. If not, why did you not come clean the first time the question was asked? Also, why did you take the link down, after the question was asked? Why did you turn on sky763?


    Everyone was thinking you were white at first, but when it came clear that you were in fact black, I knew something else was up because your opinions, in my opinion, had some forms of white wash. So, the next thing had to be adopted by whites, or white wife.



    I am not trying to bring up past events but it is clear that you are not over the past because every thread you post to, you mention your choices and your wife. I am assuming that it must really bother you so you are trying to help yourself from feeling this way. So, you look for answers. The truth shall set you free so I am telling you the truth.

    I personally feel that you are my brother and nothing can change that at all. I do have love for you, otherwise I as well as others here at destee.com, would have stopped dealing with you long ago.


    Truth be told, you are fun to go at it with but when it becomes clear that you do not want to be open to other peoples feelings and thoughts, even if it means that your choices and opinions are incorrect, it only furthers that your motives are to take, and not give. When you show that kind of selfishness, people are not going to feel as though you are one of them.





    Astrologer4U
  3. excel10k Banned

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Message Count:
    678
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    "Self-appointed" "Council of Black Correctness" or "CoBC" for short, is the nickname I have given to all of my fellow black brothers and sisters who think it is within their rightful place to attack or otherwise criticize brothers and sisters whose personal choices are not within rules and bylaws they (The CoBC) have deemed "correct" for all black people.

    This CoBC is not a real entity, but my poking fun at the audacity of some blacks who think their opinion of other blacks choices should be the standard for all black people.

    Specifically, who are they? Well there are several, but since you asked I will be specific. Astrolger4U is the president, IONLYSPEAKTRUTH is the chairman of the board, Jamesfrmphilly is a member in good standing, Mazimtaim is the Vice President. My friend Clyde is on the steering committee to help define "How Black People Must Think" and to combat the overwhelming problem of Black People demonstrating the obviously self-loathing trait of thinking for themselves. There are several other members in good standing, but I think you get my drift. Each of these members of the CoBC specialize in Ad Hominem smoke screens and are under the dillusion that unless black people bow to their(The CoBC) self-imposed "Rules for truely Black People" they get to exclude them from "true" blackness, or prescribe cures for the non-compliant "symptoms".

    As a testiment to the factual basis of my assertion that they specialize in Ad Hominem smoke screens watch closely to see if there are any fact based defenses presented from any CoBC member.

    I don't think you can convince any member of the "Self-appointed" "CoBC" of these truths you have proclaimed here. They are still under the dillusion that me, or other Blacks, exercising freedom of choice (an act often exercised by FREE people everywhere) is something they can deem unacceptable for black people.
  4. excel10k Banned

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Message Count:
    678
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well, Madame Sister President, you claim you don't care that my wife is white, but you use that as your basis for disqualifying the FACTS I have submitted. I have submitted FACTS that you have used Ad Hominem smoke screens to avoid. Facts are not a bias, they are truthful statements that must be accepted or rejected based on the information itself, not the messenger.

    What do you mean I don't live in the black community???? Roughly 60% of my neighbors are black? At what percentage does my community qualify as black under CoBC rules and bylaws??? My family is not made up of blacks???? are you kidding me??? Can you say 59 proud years of powerful unity The Taylor Family Heritage

    gotta go for now Madame President, I will continue soon.